I think a lot of people have underestimated us simply because to a non-Collingwood supporter the thought of us being succesful pains them.

I know people who try to almost talk themselves into believing the Pies will fail - rather sad really.

we r def underestimated. This is due to our young list and the people who left at the end of the season. Wood and Brown stood up yesters and signs r good

Yes & yes.