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Carlton vs Fremantle..
Hi All,
Opinions/predictions for the Old Dark Navy Blues vs the Shockers on Saturday Afternoon?
SURELY we won't drop this one.
Will we?
By Matty (Blues supporter), 19 May 2008 19:56
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Marissa from Montrose (Blues supporter), 26 May 2008 16:29 hide comment
Rob, I agree with you in regards to Setanta too. He fumbled a bit with his disposals, but I thought he did so well on Pavlich.
I can't wait to see all these young guys kicking butt in the future. It's so exciting.
Marissa from Montrose (Blues supporter), 25 May 2008 9:37 hide comment
Hampson did really well tonight. Pfeffer's goal was awesome!! Bentick... BEST ON GROUND in my opinion, he was just awesome. Fish was great... Stevens was fantastic! We earn that win because we never gave up. How flukey was their kicking though!!!???
What's going on with Fev? Is it the TD? His goal kicking hasn't been great since he played the hall of fame match.
We should have thrashed them last night. Loved his tackle and that goal was very nice indeed. Oh and who said we can't win without Fev?? (considering his kicking).
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Robert from Hastings (Blues supporter), 26 May 2008 13:43 hide comment
Thats why I was happy about the win, because we did it without Judd or Fevola playing a miraculous game, infact they were both rather ordinary, I agree that Bentick was definantly best on ground, didn't seem to give up when the ball was around him, apart from a few silly mistakes I thought Setanta O'Hailpin played pretty well too, how good of a pick up is Darren Pfeiffer looking to be?
Marissa from Montrose (Blues supporter), 25 May 2008 18:09 hide comment
McPharlin did do well and Fev was often double teamed... however he still didn't kick straight or kick the distance when he had the chance and he hasn't since the hall of fame match. I do think it either has something to do with the TD or something else.
Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 25 May 2008 11:07 hide comment
I think it was McPharlin more than the Telstra Dome - you can't understate his game, because he defended excellently.
Tony from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 24 May 2008 19:29 hide comment
was anyone else happy to see Hampson back in I thought he did a solid job alot to learn still but surely it will give the selectors a reason not to pick Acland ever again
Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 24 May 2008 17:54 hide comment
Did anybody watch the Rugby Union World Cup quarter-final between France and New Zealand last year? New Zealand led possession 71%-29%, France laid 178-36 tackles, and New Zealand led time inside opposition 22 8:10-2:07. These statistics say that New Zealand should have spanked France, but France won 20-18.

I was reminded of this game today when I looked at the way each of the teams generated their scores. Carlton dominated from the stoppages, and scored most of its goals from stoppages - big efforts from Judd, Bentick, and the ability for Hammo and Kreuzer to compete against Sandilands. Fremantle scored most of its goals from rebounds and upfield free kicks - in fact, I can only remember one or two goals generated from a hard ball get. And, it's not as if we were punished from turnovers in our backlines - most of the turnovers which led to goals occurred through ill-directed kicks into the forward line. And kick-ins, of course; Fremantle went coast-to-coast on at least three occasions and completely smashed us from kick-ins. This is a growing problem; we need to be able to generate more forward-line stoppages, or we need to hold some of our midfielders back when the ball is in the forwardline to defend the potential rebound - and we definitely need to learn how to defend kick-ins, because we're getting smashed in that aspect of the game repeatedly. Another key point is that the nature of rebound goals, as compared with stoppage goals, is that the quality of shot is usually much higher - it was not just good fortune for the Dockers that they had 13.1.79 at three quarter time, it was a product of them being able to get deep, one-on-one contests to give them easy shots at goal.

The backline did an excellent job, especially considering the outs. It is unreasonable to expect defenders to stop Pavlich or Tarrant when the kicks coming in are unpressured. I thought Carlos and Bower performed admirably.

And I laud Ratten for realising that the move of Pavlich into the centre of the ground was going to cost us the game, and shifting Carlos back onto him. Not only was Pavlich winning the clearances, but he was drifting forward unopposed to take marks - which we were lucky that he missed the shots from. But with Carlos in the middle, he was able to stay with him when he drifted forward, and was able to win clearances himself.

And, if you would rather play badly and win than play well and lose, then you have completely the wrong attitude to apply to a developing team. But to say that we played badly is simplistic.

Timuçin (Blues supporter), 24 May 2008 16:37 hide comment
16 points. My prediction turned out to be right. We played **** but won again. This is a good sign. I would prefer to play **** and win rather than play good and lose. Go Blues!!!!!
Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 23 May 2008 11:03 hide comment
Will Thornton really play? I saw he was selected, but I'm skeptical. I won't be rejoicing until I actually see him on the field.
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Adrian from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 23 May 2008 15:52 hide comment
id say we will play. when he got injured they sayd hed be out for 4 max and its been 4 for i dont think there bluffing. Its bad to see Hadley out for 4 now. hes been playing some really good footy.
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Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 23 May 2008 20:21 hide comment
The word from the inside is: Pfeiffer in, Thornton out.

That seems to me to be a surprising choice. Austin was one of the emergencies, and I would have thought that, as a defender, he would have been the obvious elevation. That may leave us fairly light in the backline.

It shouldn't be too long for T-Bird. I recall hearing 4-6 weeks when he did the injury, and the fact that they selected him probably means that he's up to fitness-test stage.

Adrian from Frankston (Blues supporter), 23 May 2008 16:29 hide comment
Well with half our backline dropping to the dreaded injury curse we are going to come up short I think. Remember though if the blues are still in it at 3/4 time and playing ok we are a chance against the fast fading Shockers from the west.
Adrian from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 22 May 2008 19:31 hide comment
with Thorton back im very confident. He is experianced and will most likely get Taza and he will kill him. If Waite can draw level with Pav we will win no doubt.
Pete (Blues supporter), 22 May 2008 10:48 hide comment
I'd like to think we could win this one but being the turnover kings of the comp Freo will eat us alive at Telstra with the wide rebounds.

Freo are a good side that have lost to several top sides and will be looking to re-establish some belief in themselves here in Melbourne.

I predict a 32 point loss.

Aaron from Perth (Blues supporter), 20 May 2008 20:34 hide comment
On paper this game should be no sweat. Dockers are 1-7 and in 15th spot. On the other hand. Dockers lost to Geelong by a point and should have won. They lost to the Dogs by 3 and were within a couple of kick of Hawthorn and Adeliade. 5 of their losses are against the top 5 on the ladder. Yes they lost horribly to Melbourne, Yes they are in trouble but they are playing well. As long as the boys keep their heads about them and hit their targets they will get up over the Dockers by 5 or 6 goals
Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 20 May 2008 20:14 hide comment
Lets all get behind them and make the Telstra Dome a place Dockers don't want to be. They have a lot of confidence players Farmer, Headland etc get stuck into them they will go to water. Go Blues
Adrian from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 20 May 2008 16:53 hide comment
Dont worry about it. Unlike Freo we have a good coach and he knows how to get the boys to lift when needed. He did it for the Colligwood and West Coast games by putting a priority of toughness and after last week i expect him to do the same.
Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 20 May 2008 14:57 hide comment
I suspect that we will rebound, because the lack of midfield pressure we applied was uncharacteristic of the previous month of football, so no doubt Ratten will be re-instilling this in them - which will invariably involve replacing Ackland with Hampson. Thornton's absence will continue to hurt until his return, and I imagine we'll still be weak up forward, with Fisher in an enormous slump.

I believe that we showed against Adelaide that we're capable of beating any team if we apply midfield pressure. The major variable factor is turnovers - if we limit our turnovers, we can place ourselves in an excellent position.

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