Yeah I agree with all you. the last time we won a game where it came down to the final seconds was when Andy Mcleod kicked that low goal from the boundryline angainst the Hawks and we won by 4pts it was like 7 or 8 years ago. Porp is a future superstar in the making, same as Tippett and even further down the track Sellar. Knights has some work to do upon return. Welsh was good from what I heard yesterday, 4 goals but I am quite happy that we got rid of Hudson he did stuff all. Expect to hear more of Symes and Moran though, they were drafted in from other clubs and I think if you check it up you'll notice that our record for playing enlisted players from other AFL clubs is very high. As you would probably see Thomson after coming from Vic played more games for our club on average than he did for his previous. It was also the same with Mark Stevens. I think the club just wants to show that they dont like to show that they wasted a draft pick or money.I believe that we made that mistake too Marty. I also think Massie should be getting more game time too David, he is a great player on the rise, Doughty out Massie in, thats what should happen next week, look how well Massie finished last year averaging 25 possessions.