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Coach of the year
Not sure why they didn't name on monday night, but who should it have been? Surely it'd be out of Thompson and Clarkson?
By Dirk from Hobart (Bombers supporter), 18 Sep 2008 13:06
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Ryan from Morondava (Hawks supporter), 27 Sep 2008 18:33hide comment
Yeah ****ing yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we won
Clinton from Perth (Eagles supporter), 27 Sep 2008 5:07hide comment
Clarkson for me. Has done great things for the Hawks.
Katherine from Frankston (Bulldogs supporter), 25 Sep 2008 17:20,
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Eade and Clarkson Eade cause he got the dogs from 13th last year to 3rd this year and just missing out on making the grand final.
Clarkson cause he has put his team in the grand final and he has a great chance of winning their 1st flag since 1989
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Ryan from Morondava (Hawks supporter), 25 Sep 2008 18:10,
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Katherine from Frankston (Bulldogs supporter), 26 Sep 2008 19:23,
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did the hawks win one in 1991? i thought their last one was in 1989.
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Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 26 Sep 2008 20:02,
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They knocked off the highly favoured Eagles in 1991 at Waverley Park. People prefer to pretend it never happened, mainly because of Angry Anderson.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 26 Sep 2008 23:07hide comment
Yep, West Coast were on top, undefeated until round 14 when beaten by Carlton by 3 points at Princes Park. West Coast lost 3 games for the entire home and away season that year. Hawthorn beat West Coast in the first final ever played out of Victoria at Subiaco by 23 points. In the grand final Hawthorn trounced them by 53 points.
Alexander from Minlaton (Power supporter), 25 Sep 2008 20:33hide comment
who ever wins the god damn GRAND FINAL. listen to the peopel around and look at the past 2 years All AUstralian team
Guy (Magpies supporter), 18 Sep 2008 16:12,
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Thompson???? Forget it. The reason Geelong are so special has nothing to do with the coach. He has stated they don't need much coaching. Considering the team's performance in 06 and the fact he nearly lost his job indicates his coaching ability. It's the Geelong players that have turned themselves around in the player's review. They were the one's who told Ablett he was lazy and not reaching his potential. Look at the turn around. It was the leadership group who benched Johnson for several weeks not Thompson. Thompson no doubt is a good coach but certainly not coach of the year. Clarkson - has changed the way footy will be played with his cluster. More teams will spend the off season devising their own. Malthouse - Proving to be the last of dinosaurs and only surviving because he is good at developing the kids. Ratten - Has taken over a club sapped of good times. Has proven to be a leader others will follow. The reason for Carlton's rise. Wallace - Finally a strong 9th finish, maybe next year the honour will be his. Eade - Has only brought the results the talent at his disposal would.
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Craig from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 23 Sep 2008 14:25,
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I think your review on the coaches here is very accurate, although maybe a little bit harsh on bomber, but theres probably a few people who share your view. (not me however) i would personally add matthew knights to this group as i believe he did a fantastic job on getting essendon to 8 wins with half a list. Just a quick question Guy? Who do you think will be Collingwoods next captain and do you believe that Didak will stay or be traded?
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 24 Sep 2008 0:44,
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The next captain of Collingwood will be.......... Joffa. I really haven't thought about it as much as I did last year. I thought Maxwell would have been a good option last year as his game against Geelong in the prelim showed so much grit. Not the most skillful but works hard which sets a great example. Burns was the logical choice though. I think Fraser hasn't got the essential qualities to be captain, a few years ago he removed himself from the leadership group. I believe there is only one true option now and that is Travis Cloke. Young, skillful and has a presence which will only get bigger. Didak will stay for the simple reason, it's not Collingwood's decision. Didak has a contract until the end of 2010, under AFLPA guidelines players with a contract cannot be traded without their consent. I believe Didak has shown over the last several weeks his sorrow for his involvement and it appears the penny has finally dropped (should have after the CBD killer involvment!). Collingwood have set the bar on what is required of it's players just like Geelong did in it's player review and Johnson's drinking problem. Look how that turned out for them.......
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Craig from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 25 Sep 2008 14:56hide comment
Yeah i think Cloke will be the best choice and i think that responsibilty will only make him a better player. I wouldve said Heath Shaw until that incident happened but obviously he wont be now. It will certainly be intersesting with Didak and im sure Collingwood would certainly get some decent offers for him but by the looks of things it seems that hes staying. Thanks for your opinion
Scott (Cats supporter), 21 Sep 2008 20:28,
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This comment is so crap and just plain wrong that it would take me too long to explain it to you Guy so I wont bother. Why should I bother anyway, who cares what you think your just a nobody and Collingwood supporter who thinks his **** dont stink. Let me tell you that last comment was **** and it absolutly reaked!!!!!!!
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 22 Sep 2008 2:05,
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As the loss to the Geelong suggested, the Bulldogs were short on finals experience. Was West playing???? No! Yet he had loads of finals experience not to mention no Western Bulldogs player has played more games. Did Eade have West at his disposal?? No. One player doesn't make a team but experience with a young side is massive. Look how Collingwood bombed, same aspect experience. Considering the way Welsh bombed, you could say Eade's faith was let down big time. I'm sure their are Adelaide fans saying I told you so. Yet he was at Eade's disposal. Nice try Scott, its always good to have the Geelong tosser on board. Have I insulted anyone???? Yet I would think most people would seem to think it was fair. I think Tarrrant's comment was really fair. Interesting, very interesting. Lot of movement between those clubs recently too. Austin again provided a valid point. If you are taking offense about my rating of Thompson then you are severely underestimating the leadership talent of your own club. To me that really is a ****. Your just a little girl with a boy's name.
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Scott (Cats supporter), 22 Sep 2008 8:11,
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Hey Guy Im going to the Grand Final, you be sure to enjoy your early start to the pre-season.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 22 Sep 2008 14:13,
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Big deal so am I. What's your point? I expect Hawthorn to win anyway. Did you beat us?? Didn't even come close.... 86 point drubbing. Win Saturday and the stats will say average losing margin 86 points. "Who did that?" people will ask COLLINGWOOOOOOOOD.............. Back to the point. Is that all you got?? Just feel like having a go! Your just a little girl with a boy's name.
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Scott (Cats supporter), 22 Sep 2008 16:22,
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You dont win Premierships in round 9, but I will let you hang on to that cause its the only thing from 2008 you have to celebrate. My point is that im going to the Grand Final to watch the team I support and it doesnt matter by how many points Collingwood won by in Round 9 they wont be there. By the way Cats won 3 more games this year and are in a GF again. Collingwood finished 8th and got knocked out in the Semi's by StKilda of all teams. I would say Collingwood have peaked and are on the way down the ladder, even your last 2 Captains couldnt stand to be involved in a club that has no heart. They made a good decision and got out before Collingwood get the woodenspoon next year. By the way if your at the G on Saturday lets meet up, I would love to see what you have to say when your speaking to me face to face.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 23 Sep 2008 0:56hide comment
My point in regards to round 9 of this year is the delight you will get if attending a sports quiz in several years time. Your sitting there and the question is "Which team inflicted Geelong's only loss by 86 points in 2008" The answer is COLLINGWOOOOOOD. That is if you win this week of course. You get to hear the name Collingwood again and reminded you weren't good enough to beat us in 2008. As for your jibe about Collingwood having no heart, well that's just an uneducated and ill informed opinion. Just like your comments about our two previous captains as if both fit would love nothing more than to put on the black and white jumper. Collingwood have peaked have they??? Youngest average age to win a final since 2000. I'II say we are behind Geelong in terms of development so yet to have peaked but then again your opinion is always an attack on Collingwood. Deep down you are yet to recover from the 86 point defeat this year that ended any chance of Geelong being the clear winner (providing they win Sat) in regards to the best season ever. Would I want to meet up with you at the "G". No not really, you are not worthy of my company. Your opinion is like an ar'sehole. Everyone has got one but not all look good.
John from Melbourne (Bulldogs supporter), 23 Sep 2008 0:50hide comment
It's flattering isn't it when you get such responses from people like Scott... Your dead right about the whole Westy thing - one player can't make a team. There are players in our team without (or little) finals experience and the pressure would be enormous. Eade was let down but I'm sure he'll use this season as a catalyst for next year's plans. Funny thing is you even gave constructive criticism about your own coach Malthouse yet Scott still takes a swipe. Plain st*pid move on his behalf.
John from Melbourne (Bulldogs supporter), 23 Sep 2008 0:42hide comment
Hey man give Guy some slack. He only put his opinion in and didn't have a go at anyone or any club. He didn't say anything about your club mate and so what if he is a Collingwood supporter? Just goes to show your intellect and good example for your fellow Cats supporters by saying something as silly as your comment. Imagine if Bomber Thompson heard your response? I'm 100% sure he would have taken Guy's comment alot more seriously and intellectually stimulating than yours.
Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 21 Sep 2008 21:00hide comment
One thing I'll point out (which nobody ever seems to, mainly because I don't think they realise it) is that Laidley has been running the cluster longer than Clarkson. The first time I ever noticed cluster football was Rd 21 2007 (of course, it wasn't called cluster then), when the Kangaroos beat Carlton by 83pts - it was our first big loss under Ratten, and I remembering watching as we were absolutely helpless to move the ball out of our back half. It's only that Clarkson won more games with it (and perhaps that's only because his list is better than Laidley's) that he's been able to take all the credit.
Andrew from Castlemaine (Cats supporter), 19 Sep 2008 10:30,
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What about Dean Laidley north dont have any real superstars and he gets the best out of what he has Neil Craig has done a wonderful job at the crows did'nt realy have a foward of anynote all year and still made the 8 even thro they went out in the first week
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Mick Malthouse as above done a great job with the pies
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 19 Sep 2008 17:19hide comment
Laidley and Craig have done well but can't win finals so fail there.
Austin (Bombers supporter), 18 Sep 2008 16:51hide comment
You're absolutely right! Thompson shouldn't be the Coach of the Year. But I do have to say that as the senior coach he would have helped the side maintain focus, composure etc. Having said that, no other names spring out at me for a coach worthy of the title..
Linden from Glenorchy (Hawks supporter), 24 Sep 2008 2:26hide comment
I dont think dirk ment the question to be factual, Thompson got his side to the top of the Ladder but i think the players & leadership group are the real driving force behind that which Guy pointed out. I think a coach like Malthouse or Clarkson should go close due to the young age of their lists and the fact they both managed to win finals this year, Thompson over a longer period may be the better coach as he has developed his list into a super team but for this year alone I think Clarkson 1st but i'm biased so i'll change that to Malthouse 1st Clarkson 2nd, Thompson 3rd, Laidley 4th Craig 5th, Knights 6th, Wallace 7th, Eade 8th, Roos 9th, Mathews 10th, Ratten 11th, Lyon 12th, Worsefold 13th, Harvey 14th, Williams 15th, Bailey 16th.
Woody from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 21 Sep 2008 21:34,
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what about ross lyon? just over a season at st.kilda and bring's them from 9th to 4th, al from round 12 to 22 just two losses. more than just an ok job, remember only just over a season by about 3 weeks.
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Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 22 Sep 2008 16:14hide comment
Yeah, but he also took them over from back to back Prelim's, and took them straight down the ladder, not that it's necessarily his fault, he shouldn't have got the St.Kilda job anyway, still bemuses me to this day why you would get a defensive coach, when you have the best attack in the comp. Effectively killed the teams chance at a flag.
Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 22 Sep 2008 16:10hide comment
1. Clarkson, as much as I hate to say it, because I think he behaves like an absolute baby when Hawthorn get beaten, but the cluster looks pretty good. 2. Roos, don't think anyone else could get more out of a team, even though I hate his game plan. 3. Craig, doesn't have a lot to work with at Adelaide, but always gets them to the finals, needs to get a finals game plan though. 4. Worsfold, no bullsh!t, that's what I love about him.
Scott (Cats supporter), 21 Sep 2008 20:24hide comment
Coach of the year is the Premiership Coach, so yes it will either be Thompson or Clarkson
Andrew (Hawks supporter), 21 Sep 2008 19:43hide comment
tough call.... Thompson has kept his club on top form and achieved a win/loss ratio never seen before.... he's a spectacular coach (even puts a way a sandwich during the game lol). but it's coach of the year so the question is i think which team has made huge improvements because of their game plain and coach's input, rather than trades etc.... Ratten - no, Judd was their x-factor... Laidley - his team didn't make prelims like last year - no improvement. Maybe Eade or Clarko, yes the talent of their team is huge but their game plans are strong and their skill is top notch (i want to make it clear that talent and skill are different, talent of a player is a natural, freakish thing, skill is something developed and nurtured through training).
Joshua from Frankston (Kangaroos supporter), 20 Sep 2008 18:35hide comment
Laidley all the way! Carn the Roos
Joshua (Hawks supporter), 19 Sep 2008 16:32hide comment
Going on results with a very un-star studded list i would say Malthouse or Laidley but going on results probably Clarkson just because he created an innovative gameplan which has got us from 14 th 2 years ago to a prelim this year. but it will more than likely be Thompson, may aswell give every award to Geelong even if they dont deserve it
Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 18 Sep 2008 23:51hide comment
I think coach of the year isn't easily defined. There are a number of top coaches that deserve such an award and you can't overlook coaches in the bottom 8 either. I think Wallace has ought to be comended for his efforts this year too. And those who are trying to take the light away from the dominant teams of 08 (namley thompson & clarkson) but do you honestly think both geelong and hawks would be anywhere near where they are without their excellent coaching staff? Teams don't just get through on pure skill, but the dynamics of a team that a skilled and smart coach adds is an integral part of the game of today that has become so much more tactical. Don't get me wrong, the players are the primary match winners & the AFL is so abundant in superstars.
Alexander from Minlaton (Power supporter), 18 Sep 2008 20:11hide comment
premiership coach, always is
Lee (Magpies supporter), 18 Sep 2008 17:03hide comment
malthouse 
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