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Geelong are so dominant, there boring to watch.
I have to say, this is so bad for the competition, that a side can be so much better than any other team..there killing every team off. Why don't they get their share of injuries - like other teams..what are they doing right that every other team gets wrong? Why are they so super fit? Why cant other teams work out their game plan? I'm finding it hard to watch them for longer than 1/2 hour, my mind wonders and its just so boring. Its like their playing a training drill against themselves. The way their going they will be winning the next 3 grand finals in a row. If you want to make some serious money just bet on Geelong taking the flag this year...a guaranteed investment. I thought the AFL wanted to encourage a more equal competition, well it just aren't working.
By Jenny from Adelaide (Crows supporter), 7 Sep 2008 17:18
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 7 Sep 2008 21:54,
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i was just wondering 1 thing. what was the free kick to brad ottens for? and how was it a free kick to steve johnson after ottens kicked the goal?. that would have to be one of the weakest descisions i ahve EVER seen. anyway good win. u deserved to win by 100+. we were terrible.
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 7 Sep 2008 22:07,
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Hi Matt that other free to steve johnson was because milne came up behind steve and thumped him pretty hard in the back and knocked him down. he should get reported for it but i doubt he would
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 7 Sep 2008 22:10,
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 are u serious? it was for that.... omg. hahaha. wat was reportable about that? and id barely call it a thump
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 7 Sep 2008 22:26,
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Matt i think Geelong are amazing to watch, but its a known fact they are so favoured by the umps...
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 9 Sep 2008 20:33,
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Rebecca do you actually know the definition of the word fact? Truth is its NOT a 'FACT' that the umps are favouring geelong its your assumption.
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 10 Sep 2008 17:08,
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Yeah Danielle it is a fact because it was in the paper 2 weeks ago Geelong are leading free kicks this year...
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Dirk from Hobart (Bombers supporter), 10 Sep 2008 19:56,
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Which might demonstrate the fact that Geelong play more intelligent football - they get in front and get more free kicks for in the back, they get their arms chopped going for marks, they have the ball more than most so get more free kicks for holding the man. More free kicks might also demonstrate that opposition teams simply get frustrated quicker when playing Geelong because they can not keep up with them. Rebecca, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, woman.
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 10 Sep 2008 21:36,
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Yeah exactly right Dirk!! As if umpires favouring geelong is a known "fact" It makes me laugh sometimes when i read some of the crap posted on here and naivity shining through some of the forum posters.
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 10 Sep 2008 22:47,
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Danielle stop taking these forums so seriuos, they are an open forum for people to discuss things whether they are rite or wrong its a bloody footy forum... Ok so correction i will take out the word" FACT", point being they still have the most free kicks this year that is the point i was trying to make after praising Geelong as they are a brilliant side... You honestly are a little touchy and this isn't the first time...
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 12 Sep 2008 16:45,
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Well forgive me for taking this seriously, obviously you don't so why don't you go some place else if you arn't going to value the opinions of others.
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 12 Sep 2008 19:02hide comment
I never mentioned i dont value what people say, im saying i just dont obviously take it as serious as you do... As for telling me to go some place else thanks but no thanks... lol...
Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 10 Sep 2008 19:36hide comment
That only proves the free kick tally. Not that Geelong are "favoured" Do you think maybe the added pressure applied to the Geelong team (especially the likes of Ablett & Bartel that are tagged constantly) would result in an increase in the amount of free kicks awarded? Simply mathematic, the more tackles laid the increased chance for an illegal tackle to be laid. Same goes with any free awarded
Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 8 Sep 2008 12:38hide comment
they are. even though stkilda got thumped i still enjoyed watching the game because it looks like the cats have 40 players out there sometimes. and yes they are!. some of those in the back free kicks were bs. geelong are good at milking that free... as soon as one gets touched and thinks they cant get out they drop there knees and fall forward.
Andrew from Gold Coast (Magpies supporter), 9 Sep 2008 20:20,
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Still shouldn't be done one foot in front of an umpire looking directly at you.
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 10 Sep 2008 21:42hide comment
Well said Andrew Yepp thats Milne for you...brainless idiot!!
Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 9 Sep 2008 20:31hide comment
players do worse then that infront of the umpire all the time.
Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 7 Sep 2008 22:19,
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everything about it was. i never sore it until after he kicked the goal
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 8 Sep 2008 9:27,
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lol... watch it again then. that would ahve barely been called contact in netball
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 17:33,
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well just letting you know iam a B badge Netball umpire myself, and something so intentional and diliberate would've resulted in a warning.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 9 Sep 2008 10:11,
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oh onli a warning in netball... but a free kick in a game of afl..:S. i stopped listenin to ur post wen u said he should have got reported. that made me think ur posts were rubbish because that is just a dumb thing to say.... reported...lol
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 9 Sep 2008 20:37,
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Funny thing is Matt, the case was actually forwarded onto the match review panel and it didn't get off as lightly as I think it might've
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 9 Sep 2008 21:26hide comment
u mean by being thrown out?
Alisha (Saints supporter), 8 Sep 2008 19:01,
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MMM said it was nothing, they said Stevie Johnson was pulling out some acting. Not defending Milney for doing it though, should have been dragged for it. Didn't deserve the free though.
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 21:28hide comment
Well I can see Steve Johnson was doing abit of acting but i still thought a free kick was a fair call I guess. Point is he wasn't reported and the goal wasn't the difference between a win & a loss.
Guy (Magpies supporter), 10 Sep 2008 23:56,
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Danielle, you are spot on Milne should have been reported. I found the reason he wasn't to be crap. "not enough force" Considering the area Milne hit was around the kidneys and these organs are sensitive, I was bemused.
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Danielle from Bairnsdale (Cats supporter), 12 Sep 2008 16:41hide comment
Thanks for the unbias opinion Guy.
Mark from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 8 Sep 2008 9:46,
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Hahaha, your are kidding aren't you? Thumped him pretty hard??? Steve Johnson made the most feeble attempt at winning an oscar and shouldn't have even been considered for a logie! You'd make a perfect umpire judging from how easily you've been sucked in like so many of today's umpires. Hahaha. That decision was PATHETIC.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 8 Sep 2008 12:37hide comment
lol. cat fans believe everythings a free kick coz they get so many:S. wouldnt have changed the result though but it could cost a team a grand final.
Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 9:03,
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The Ottens free kick was because Hugdeton made front on contact in the marking contest when he wasn't looking at the ball. The Milne one was weak, but players who make contact after with forwards after a goal has been kicked need their heads read, you're just asking for another free to be paid on the goal line.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 8 Sep 2008 12:43,
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ahk thnx for the ottens one. i couldnt really see it. was down the other end of the ground and the replay didnt really show much as it was off the screen. and i think the milne one was pathetic.... steve johnson dived.wouldnt even get a free kick in soccer!.
spose thats wat u get wen u play a team that will win at all costs. apart from that and a few in the back decisions it was a good game.
u guys wouldnt allow us to switch gears and go all out attack. stkilda were simply pathetic. reiwoldt was shocking... i thought we would ahve atleast been more of a challange then that... wasnt expecting a win but u guys deserved to win by 150+... as soon as it started raining i knew it was game over. saints are no good in the wet... the auskickers at half time were handleing the ball better
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Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 15:37,
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I don't think Reiwoldt played sh!t, I think the players up the field did, they gave him absolutely no chance by being so slow with ball movement. Geelong had the chance to double/triple team him all day because of that. Hayes was probably the only one who can hold his head up, the rest pretty well had dirty days. He can come play for Geelong anytime he wants.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 9 Sep 2008 10:14hide comment
young clinton jones was good aswell. kept bartel to 3 touches in the 3rd quarter. i was impressed with that. hes been one of the biggest stand outs for stkilda this year. and i reackon reiwoldt had a shocker... he dropped 3 marks in the first 5-10 mins. all markable. we cant rely on him playin awesome everygame but in a game as big as this and being our captain...
and he played on the wing in the 2nd half aswell. and yeah lenny is under rated in my opinion. u just dont seem to hear about the few stars in the stkilda line up like him and max hudgton because they concerntrate on kozi and that being over rated.
Scott from Adelaide (Eagles supporter), 8 Sep 2008 18:40,
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just a typica crows supporter....cant handle their own team being ****...they have to start getting into the best team in the competition....geelong are a awsome outfit to watch....and I am just in awe of them everytime they play...the complete opposite of the crows who have played the same gameplan for the last 4 years...well done geelong you deserve to win the flag!l Keep playing great football!
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Jenny from Adelaide (Crows supporter), 8 Sep 2008 20:59,
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yeah true I can't handle my team being XXXX, but under Neil Craig we've come to expect that! I'm not saying Geelong doesn't deserve the flag...I'm just asking how did they get so good, when the AFL are suppose to be encouraging a more equal competition. Perhaps some father & son drafts helped along the way.
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Ian from Geelong (Cats supporter), 12 Sep 2008 18:43hide comment
your off your chops jenny
Ian from Geelong (Cats supporter), 12 Sep 2008 18:40hide comment
all of you people that dont like watching Geelong just **** off the game doesnt want you.
Evan from Perth (Eagles supporter), 12 Sep 2008 1:41hide comment
I think footy has the history of something like era from 1990's (I just learnt footy like 2 years ago so do not really know much history). Essendon Bombers, Brisbane Lions, West Coast Eagles / Sydney Swans rivalry, North Melbourne n then now Geelong's time has just come. I might be wrong, but I think Hawks might overcome them next year or 2 years from now
Guy (Magpies supporter), 11 Sep 2008 0:10,
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Watching Geelong is watching a team. Other clubs need to use Geelong as an example in what teamwork and commitment can do. Geelong were an average side until they become committed to the team cause. As Tom Harley said "For the best part of a decade we had one All Australian in Matthew Scarlett. Steven King was (honoured in) 2000 and then all of a sudden, bang, nine came in one team, which is a pretty clear message that the best way to get individual recognition it through cohesive teamwork" Not boring to watch, an example of teamwork.
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Jenny from Adelaide (Crows supporter), 11 Sep 2008 20:07,
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Surey you cant honestly say you enjoyed last years Grand Final? Enjoyed the teamwork..face it these one sided games can wear thin, especially when the last 2 grand finals were so enthrilling.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 11 Sep 2008 23:51hide comment
No Jenny I loved watching last years Grand Final. Wouldn't want to see another this year and perhaps the previous close 1's influenced my opinion here.
Scott from Adelaide (Crows supporter), 10 Sep 2008 23:03hide comment
I dont think there is any serious money to be made on geelong, I mean what bookie would be stupid enough to pay out big on Geelong winning the GF....its a given
Carey (Cats supporter), 10 Sep 2008 10:53hide comment
i cant be bothered reading this whole thread but damn this guy is stupid!! Typical to come from an interstate supporter!! Go VICS! About time a team without the advantage of extra salary cap can dominate the comp!! The salary cap is the only reasons West coast, brisbane and sydney were abe to keep there star player for so long!!! god i get angry with ppl like this!!!
Simon from Bendigo (Cats supporter), 7 Sep 2008 21:51,
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geelong has a rival the hawks, I would say the hawks are almost better then the cats, if we had egan back a match between us and the hawks would be so evenly matched its insane, the dogs have been pretenders all year, this week we have sorted contenders from pretenders, the flag is between 2 sides, allready i know that the grannie will be between the cats and hawks, if you were watching geelong vs st.kilda in the last quarter and wondering why it was so boring you dont need to look any further then the saints disgraceful tactics which are pointless when you are that far behind, ross lyon should be sacked top 4 dosn't mean anything they will be out next week, the saints are the most boring team to watch in the afl, the cats are the most exciting (except for maybe the hawks) you my friend are a sooking crows supporter wishing your team could be so good. "Why don't they get their share of injuries - like other teams..what are they doing right that every other team gets wrong? Why are they so super fit? Why cant other teams work out their game plan? I'm finding it hard to watch them for longer than 1/2 hour, my mind wonders and its just so boring. Its like their playing a training drill against themselves." its called smart recruiting, the hawks have done the same thing, and we have had our fair share of injuries notebly ablet 4 weeks ling 3 weeks chapman 7 weeks scarlet 4 weeks egan the season If you dont know who egan is he was the all australian centre half back last season.
I enjoyed watching brisbane play in their era of dominance, I think we like to see the stars at work and thats what you get everytime you watch geelong play, a team of stars performing at their peak.
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Jackson from Bendigo (Magpies supporter), 8 Sep 2008 18:32,
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I totally agree with you but I dont think the injuries you have had have really thrown your teams structure out the window as such. Your midfield is so good anyway that you showed you can live without Ablett for a while, while Bartel and Selwood etc. you could still win a flag without him. Ling is a tagger and you don't need a tagger when you win by a billion points every week. Chapman isn't important to your team as much any more I feel. Your forward line is Mooney at full forward, Ottens resting and Johnson crumbing. I don't see where Chapman fits in. Your backline can be stretched so I see how losing Scarlett hurts. I think your main problem would be if you lost Ottens. To turn back the clock you guys won the Prelim last year against us because of Ottens, he was easily the bloke who won the game for you. Honestly I don't think your side is in trouble with injuries unless they lost him and maybe two of your defenders.
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Simon from Bendigo (Cats supporter), 9 Sep 2008 21:55hide comment
Cheers. yeah the defenders bit, we had neither egan or scarlet (all aussie centre half back and full back) so we were a bit stretched with andy mack and milburn taking people on, but didn't stop us winning so must not have been to bad, chapman does pretty much the same job as johnno, its just another avenue to goal and he is still important because he peforms consistantly but we have so many forwards options in the position he plays that he could go out of the side with a small effect. Ottens and Mooney would be 2 players I would not want us to lose, Moons sets up so much play and Otto is just brilliant in the ruck.
Brett from Mackay (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 18:07hide comment
Dont no how watching attacking football is boring,i find watching defensive gameplans a hell of a lot more boring.As to why Geelong is so good at moment it's a combination of building a team over years and sticking with a coach and his plan,yes i no Bomber was not far from gone but that's proof you must stick it out .
Austin (Bombers supporter), 8 Sep 2008 12:09hide comment
Dammit - I forgot to say that Milne's elbow in the back to Johnson was well worth a free kick because it was a deliberate and very physical attack on another player's body at a time when the ball was not in play. You can be as physical as you want when you're trying to play for the ball, but open and direct physical assaults away from play, when the ball is not in play have got to be penalised. I don't know if the free should have been in the goalsquare, but it definately should have been paid. And that's coming from someone who thinks Geelong already get paid too many free kicks!
Austin (Bombers supporter), 8 Sep 2008 12:02hide comment
I had more trouble watching them last year than this year. They are a brilliant team, and you can tell that they are absolutely committed to playing as well as they can in every match. Very rarely do they ease up, and sometimes they seem to play even harder once they're up by 50 odd points. They do have a few players that are brilliant, (Ling, Bartel, Harley, Wojinski, Johnson) but the way they set their minds to the task and their absolute commitment to each other raises the levels that their more average players play at.. Say Millburn, Stokes and Chapman are great in the Geelong side, but if you put them into another team, without the support of their mates and the familiarity with their gameplan they woulnd't be neasrly as good as they are with the Cats. I really believe that the reason for their absolute dominance is more mental than physical, more based on their determination and awareness than their physical ability.
Chris from Mount Gambier (Kangaroos supporter), 7 Sep 2008 23:22,
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Well I cant answer all the questions here, but first of all, they have had their injuries, its just that their depth is so great they can cover for them. I know what you mean by no-one being able to beat them, but they have built this side for quite a while, and well done to them, theyve obviously done a bloody good job! with the AFL encouraging a more even comp, I think they have. Some sides arent that good with recruiting and thinking, Geelong are brilliant. There highest draft picks and guns in their side, havent been number ones and twos, they are more like 7's, Joel Selwood and Jimmy Bartel, and Ablett under father son rule. Mackie was an unexpected high pick, which Geelong got ridiculed for, but now look at him, very good player. Full credit to Geelong. As for being boring, I dont agree, the way they play the game is absolutely awesome. It is just unbelievable what they can do. The way they run and take the game on is unreal, then the way they tackle and apply pressure is unreal! If you think theyre boring, just watch Sydney play and youll change your mind! I agree they have the flag in the bag, but I think it would be great to see the Hawks get through to the gf with them, and we'll find out how good both sides really are. I think it will be one of the hardest, toughest and entertaining gf's of all time. PS: I didnt agree with the free to Johnson after Milne bumped him, and if it was to be a free, it shouldve been in the centre, and not a free goal. There is no way he should be reported for that, especially when you consider Charman last week, and more so Goodes earlier on against Melbourne!
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James from Adelaide (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 11:19hide comment
Yeah it was a soft free. It was payed in the goal square because the flags hadn't been waved yet, apparently.
Andrew from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 8 Sep 2008 9:42hide comment
If you think Geelong are boring, then you are crazy. They are brilliant and play the game the way it should be played. They made the Saints look stupid yesterday, just like they do to everyone. I bet if your team played like the Cats, you wouldnt find them boring.
Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 8 Sep 2008 9:11hide comment
You're wrong Jenny, I love watching good teams play, Essendon in 2000, Brisbane 01 - 04, WCE 05/06 it makes you appreciate it more when your team plays well. That's like saying you find Buddy or Ablett or Judd boring to watch because they are so dominant. It's great to watch a player or team that do the fundamentals so well.
Andrew (Hawks supporter), 7 Sep 2008 23:33hide comment
are you kidding Jenny? I love watching the Cats, i appreciate the footy they play and how well they use the ball. i don't know about you but i watch footy games just to appreciate the footy, not to watch my team win.... geelong totally do seem to get a pretty sweet deal with free kicks often but i'll admit they run hard and they attack the footy hard, especially bartell and Ablett
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