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Fev's goal haul
Real dirty on the hawthorn coaching/players playing extra men in the defense right at the end. Fev almost there but typical of Hawthorn like to ruin it. Gee, they had the game in the hands from the 1st quarter but that had to spoil the moment for Fev. I mean I know he had chances earlier on but got to give him credit. Any thoughts?
By Alisha (Saints supporter), 30 Aug 2008 22:04
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Scott from Perth (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 0:52,
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Would have been good if Fev had been given that last free kick for getting scragged in the square, but he did have his chances earlier. I'm freaking spewing but, coz considering he was going to get sacked supposedly at the start of the year, he's now fallen 1 short of the ton, and has come a long way. Look out next year though, coz he'll make every kick count, and he'll be twice as hungry, and blow Franklin out of the water. Franklins a show pony, who gets easy goals, and has to play on from outside 50 to even get close. On ya Fev!!!
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Andrew (Hawks supporter), 31 Aug 2008 1:02,
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yeah he gets 100 easy goals while he gets triple team. pull your head out of your butt mate. no one is ripping on fev we're all giving him a pat on the back, there's no need to have a go at buddy just because he got the coleman. tool
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Scott from Perth (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 1:12,
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I wasn't havin a go at Buddy coz he got the Coleman. I was having a go coz he gets the easy goals, duffus. He had to do really well to kick more than Fev, which he did, so good on him. All I'm saying is that Fev at least chases down a few of his goals, gets 1 or 2 players drop in front of him every week, and considering everyone had written him of at the start of the year, he's come a long way.. Tool!
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 9:45,
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Scott doesn't matter how Buddy or Fev gets them the question was it unsportsmanlike by Hawks. YES it bloody was.
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Graham from Northcote (Hawks supporter), 1 Sep 2008 22:55hide comment
Why is it unsportsmanlike???? If the top forwards are double or triple teamed every week why should the Hawks gift a goal by not doing this at the end. Did I not see Franklin triple teamed throughout the first half? See it both ways. If a cricketer is on 99, do the bowlers give him a lollypop? Also it might have been sporting by Carlton TO ACTUALLY GET THE BALL THEMSELVES. How many centre clearances in the last quarter? Maybe NONE!!!!!!! AFL is played by big boys. If you want to watch the sheilas then start watching soccer. They might be glad to have you. You are obviously one of those duffusses who booed Hodge all night because he might be better than your imported star Judd. Judd was stopped by Sewell after qtr time. Who stopped Hodge?
Andrew (Hawks supporter), 31 Aug 2008 10:36,
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are you saying buddy never gets double teams? watch a replay of the game you idiot not only did he get double and triple teamed every chance the blues got but the fact that the umpires are just waiting to give a free kick against him means he gets quadruple teamed! buddy gets the easy goals? no freaking way he's known for his freakish ability to kick them when they shouldn't be. like against brisbane when he shrugged off three players to kick one! you're so narrow minded. if anything fev gets alot of easy goals, most of his come from a set shot after a mark on a lead. having said that i don't know if you've ever actually played footy but my experience is even if you're running into an open goal square there is no such thing as an easy goal somewhere along the line you had to fight for it. tool......
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 1 Sep 2008 19:55hide comment
Andrew their both great players but if you ever watch Carlton Fev also gets double/tripled team too and I don't really think he gets easy goals as you say. Yes a lot are on the lead however he puts in 3-4 leads to get that one opening. Now if you've played footy you'd know putting in 3-4 leads is not easy work and then converting from outside 50 is also not easy. Both are champs I just wish Fev was as good when he was 21 though.
Michael from Gold Coast (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 4:31hide comment
Hawks are playing well this year and this has no doubt helped Franklin get his 100. Franklin has alot of pressure taken off through other players up fwd kicking goals. Carlton at this stage don't have that yet so teams know they look for fev and he really gets triple team. As the blues get more depth fev will kick more goals.
Scott from Perth (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 1:13hide comment
And is'nt it past your bed time??
Matt from Warrnambool (Tigers supporter), 1 Sep 2008 20:14hide comment
Fev has to earn it. If he played as a team man all year and chased and had second efforts he would have got 120 goals.
Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 30 Aug 2008 23:59,
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Hawthorn/Clarkson's effort tonight was f'ucking disgraceful, putting 4 players back tonight with five minutes to go was unsportsmanlike, you were 80 points up, there was no chance of losing the game, give the fans and people watching what they want. Imagine if Carlton had gone out tonight and gone four on one with Franklin to deliberately f'uck him on getting 100 goals, the Hawthorn fans would have been ropeable, and the papers and media would have bagged Carlton's tactics. Disappointing, very disappointing.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 6:13,
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Jodie, I'm strongly going to disagree with your opinion here. Guess it had to happen. I have never seen opposition coaches and players doing a favour against themselves. Hawthorn are getting ready to play finals and went into the game with a mission, to stop Fev getting a ton. Fev had kicked 7 goals up until the last few minutes, what if it was Geelong and Mooney was killing them on grand final day and they had to correct the flow? It's practice and teaching inexperience players how to play a certain way to curb their influence. In the 1st qtr I saw 3 or 4 carlton players attempt to stop Franklin for the 1st 20 or so minutes.
Franklin was just too good and Fev had his chances missing 3 shots in the 1st qtr. Had he kicked them he might have finished with 102 goals equal with Franklin. However he wasn't good enough but should be congratulated for turning his career around. He earnt the new contract and will now be remembered as a Carlton player. Rich history means he won't be forgotten.
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 9:43,
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Can't agree with you Guy I reckon it was very unsportsmanlike. They didn't flood all game but decided to when he had 99 on the board. Plus we were flooding Buddy at the start when the game was up for grabs. The fans all stayed to see two players get the ton in one game a first for the AFL, but left without seeing such a historic moment because one guy has little man syndrome. It might sound like sour grapes from me but I'd feel the same if it was any other player. Plus I had a 100 on Fev at the start of year to kick the ton with one of my mates jibbed.
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Andrew (Hawks supporter), 31 Aug 2008 10:31,
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you're wrong Mal, Hawthorn was dropping at least one bloke back in front of fev all night and Ratten allowed them to do it by plaing terrible tactics, leaving Cloke on hodge meant hodge could run off and fill the gap, hodge and guerra were doing it all night. Roughead went down there and was told by the runner to get back into the forward line. This is footy, fev was disappointed that he didn't reach the ton but he didn't blame it on anyone else but himself (that has certainly changed my opinion of fev, i thought he was an arrogant illegitimate child). Footy is tough, it's a hard fought game and you shouldn't want hawthorn to just roll over and give fev a ton. it cheapens what it means to kick a hundred goals, it brings it down a notch. did everyone just peel off and let plugger kick his 1300th? no, they made him kick his 1300th just like he had to kick the other 1299, tough and hard fought. it would have been nice to see, i wanted it to happen, but as fev said, that's footy
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 15:12,
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I don't want AFL to be cheapened either Andrew but it seemed the Hawks played a different game in the last five minutes to the rest of the game. Should have been played on the merits of the game. Anyway that's life
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Duane from Melbourne (Hawks supporter), 1 Sep 2008 19:06hide comment
It was played on the merits of the game. Clarko didn't want CARLTON to score and realised they were just going to Fev so blocked that avenue. I'm sure that if Clarko didn't do everything to stop him there would've been people upset with that aswell, saying it's a sign of weakness. It's not arrogance, it's ruthlessness and that's how we must approach games if we want to be on the stage holding the cup in a few weeks time. That said, though, I was at the game cheering him on and felt disappointed for him. He's a great player.
Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 31 Aug 2008 11:34,
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I wasn't saying give it to him on a platter, the football played in the last 5 minutes by Hawthorn was loser football, they made no attempt to attack, and flooded the defensive line, that's football displayed by teams that should finish in the bottom four. Say if Geelong & Hawthorn do play in the Grand Final and Mooney cuts loose, you're teaching them nothing by putting 4-5 players on him, because that leaves 4 other players free in the forward line, and Geelong would eat that for breakfast. Carlton had free players in the forward line in that period, but wanted to get Fev the ton, which was acceptable, everybody wanted to see it. But by Hawthorn putting 5 players on him, it was effectively an underarm delivery, we'll do anything to win, or make sure our man is the only one in the limelight. Fair enough if the Hawks were only 12 points up, but 70+, that's just spiteful. It's most probably why Mark Thompson fired a missile at WCE during the week, because he wanted the Cats to have good run into the finals, not a cakewalk, and WCE did provide a contest for the first quarter and a bit, that's good dogged football to get you into finals frame of mind. In summation if you want to teach give a fair contest, put Croad on him 1 on 1 (All Australian Defender vs. All Australian Full Forward), that would have been more of a learning lesson, because come Geelong time, if it does happen, Croad won't be getting too much help from the other defenders, because Geelong's forward line is a tad better than Carlton's, that's exactly why Geelong left Scarlett one out against Franklin the last time Geelong and the Hawks played, so he could learn if it happened in the future.
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Zoe from Melbourne (Hawks supporter), 31 Aug 2008 19:10,
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no attempt to attack in the last 5 mins? did you watch the game? we kicked two goals straight out of the centre in that period and got BOOed by carlton supporters for that. sorry, its footy. they weren't just going to kick it to fev themselves, he had to earn it, he didn't. get over it.
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Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 1 Sep 2008 17:00hide comment
Zoe, clean your one eye, Hawthorn couldn't clear the defensive 50 at the end of the game, because every time one of your players got it, they would hack it out straight to a Carlton player, there was no one to pass it to up field. Guess why, they were all in the defensive line.
Guy (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 12:34hide comment
Good response Jodie. I've gone from strongly disagreeing to sitting on the fence. Mal your opinion is valued so happy to leave this argument to others. However did Fev deserve to kick his 100 goal? Not really in my opinion. He hadn't kicked a goal in the 1st half. To kick 7 in a half is turning ya game around remarkably. Fev response was fantastic and it's good to see the penny seems to have dropped.
Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 4:05,
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well said Jodie... agree 100% Karma will come back and haunt the hawks... you Cats will smash them in the finals!
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Roberto from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 14:44hide comment
Sour grapes Steve.. cop it on the chin.. excuse the pun Fev
Craig from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 1 Sep 2008 17:45hide comment
The moment that really got to me was when they put Roughead loose in defence, that was pathetic. Sure it didnt impact Fev in the end but the intentions were to. Im not at all saying Hawthorn shouldve handed him the goal or anything like that, but their tactics to flood in the last quarter were a disgrace. Clarkson comes across as an arrogant person who has little respect for others, and that uisnt just because of what happened on Saturday.
Wayne (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 17:42,
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I'm a Collingwood supporter and by all accounts hate Carlton, but Hawthorns performance last night was disgusting, I have never seen a worse display of sportsmanship in Australian history. Nobody in that team is worthy of callin themselves Australian, and their supporters are just as bad.
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 17:52hide comment
Wayne were you at the game? the supporters were cheering for Fev to kick a 100... Come on Wayne thats a big call stating they shouldnt call themselves Australian... Our team along with all the other teams would have done exactly the same thing... Would Fev have been real proud getting it because they felt sorry for him, as its shown he had his chances and he missed 3 set shots in the start of the game... p.s. Wayne Go Pies... :-)
Wayne (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 17:45hide comment
And Guy, Your the sort of person that gives magpies supporters a bad name, your just as much a disgrace as Hawthorn
Jenny from Adelaide (Crows supporter), 31 Aug 2008 13:32hide comment
Yeah have to agree, I'm a Crows supporter and usually couldn't give a damm about Carlton, but really wanted Fevola to kick that 100th goal..hate the Hawks..party poppers!
Brad from Gold Coast (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 12:23,
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You know he should earn the goals and not be hand fed, if Hawthorn were to just give it to Fev it would be calling tanking. Something Carlton has done in the past and something all the supporters were all expecting Hawthorn to do. Hawthorn had better things to do last night. They are getting prepared for finals.
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 31 Aug 2008 12:27hide comment
Thanks Brad, gees its annoying all this whinging about Fev not kicking a hundred... He simply was not good enough on the night, in saying that it was a great effort from him but gees in footy there is no sympathy and no team is going to say ok will allow you too kick a hundred because we feel you deserve it, the day this crap happens is the day footy will be changed forever... It's a game where your not hand fed, a game where we all like to see a hard ball get... Hawthorn did what the other 15 clubs would have done and thats man him up, just like they did to buddy in the 1st quater... Also fev had his chances he missed 3 goals... Stop whinging people, lets remember Buddy was the great man on the night and i say congrats buddy.. p.s. Can you come to the pies... lol...
Bethany from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 31 Aug 2008 12:22hide comment
I think it would have been in the right spirit of the game if Hawthorn let Fev kick his 100 or at least didn't put 4 players on him. Hawthorn were up all night the game was rapt up for them.
Chris from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 31 Aug 2008 11:43hide comment
Blues could have easily played 5 players on buddy all night and denied him his 100 but they didn't and hawthorn played 3-4 guys on Fev for most of the night and the selfish bastards didn't allow him to kick his ton. Very selfish hawthorn. It also didn't help with Carlton barely winning a centre clearance and being able to feed Fev on the chest. Anyways it would have been nice to see carlton have Betts, Scotland, Carrazzo, Jamison, Hadley, Bannister in the team against a full strength Hawthorn side. Oh well next year blues can have revenge.
Go Geelong, I hope u smash hawthorn in the Grand Final.
Michelle (Eagles supporter), 31 Aug 2008 11:26hide comment
Very unsportmens like hawks you are a disgace and I am an eagles supporter who thinks fev deserved his 100.Me will chear the dogs on hope they flogg ya.
Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 31 Aug 2008 11:10hide comment
unsportsman like, but carlton would ahve done the same if it was buddy who needed 8 to get there.
Katherine from Frankston (Bulldogs supporter), 31 Aug 2008 10:41hide comment
i am not a fan of fev's, but i would of loved to see Fev kick 100. it would of been good to see 2 players kick 100 goals in the same year on the same night. Hawks could of let him kick 1 more. Buddy would of won the Coleman any way but they could of just let Fev get to 100 and then they could of put numbers back.
Andrew (Hawks supporter), 31 Aug 2008 0:29hide comment
Sorry Alisha, sorry Jodie, you're very wrong. would you have them cheapen the accomplishment of kicking 100 goals by rolling over and letting him walk into the goal? no he should have to work for it, buddy gets triple teamed every game and he still managed to make it. he did so well and hats off to fev, 7 goals in the last half was unreal.... but footy is footy and lets not cheapen the accomplishment by making it anything less than footy is, a tough game
Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 30 Aug 2008 23:21hide comment
From what I saw of it Roughead went down there of his own accord then hawks runner came out a minute later and told him to go back to the forward line.
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