A disgrace to what, Marcus? I like good footy and I'm sick of the BS people come up with when they've got nothing rational, intelligent or even valid to add. If a team wants my respect, they gotta earn it. Ups to Geelong for having a good season, Ups to collingwood for making their way through a 15 year drought of beating us at home and ups to port for having such a good season (despite the grand final loss). That's the way I put it. The eagles will continue to do well and they are my favourite team but it's footy I love and it's footy I'll support. Carlton just don't have it, and all the "your an idiot" type comments in the world (this includes the "your a disgrace" which is really a more intelligent way of saying what Juliana is trying to... and on that note, I stopped saying the word "****s" back when I was in primary school) are not going to change it. Until they prove it, they will continue to be ranked behind Collingwood in their ability to win a premiership in the near future.
I am just teasing juliana because she acts like an 8 year old spoilt brat and has not added one hint of intelligent conversation into any board anywhere. She continues to claim she has opinions worth reading, but all the name calling in the world have just made her look like an idiot. I tried to refrain from making her look like more of a fool (as she does a pretty good job herself) but I couldn't help it. It's become really entertaining. Just because she supports the blues like you doesn't necessarily justify supporting her in her stupid, useless comments about absolutely nothing. I would rip into an eagles supporter who did the same thing, it's just unnecessary and would create more of a hatred towards the club and it's supporters from the competition. AFL is not about "we are the best and you all suck" it's a team game about class, skill and working your ass off to get to the top. Regardless of which team does it, due respect to whomever does, I just like the good footy. Yes I support the eagles the most, but I don't get off when we thwap sydney or port.. it's just a good game and I'm glad we win some. We lose some too, but I aint gonna go around whinging about it and calling the opposing team a bunch of dickheads... where does that get me? we still lost and will have to do better. I consider that a reasonable, realistic approach, whether you agree or not.
At least you admit that carlton is a struggling club. and that's all I've been saying. You cant argue that carlton is doing better than the eagles, or even collingwood at the moment, because they're just not. They don't make the 8. Despite the history (which I admit is good for carlton) the bottom line is we are only concerned with the now, not what happened 15 years ago. Any club can win say 10 premierships then become extinct 15 years later because they make some bad decisions, lose sponsors, supporter base and money and just go down the drain. And at that point, nobody can sit there and say "but we won more premierships than you so you all suck and we're gonna whip your sorry asses" see what I mean yet?
Regardless of the salary cap and a clubs ability to retain talent, think about the clubs recruitment of draftees and their training to mold these young players into stars. Only as an example, take what the eagles have. We are just pushing out star after star and we don't even get priority picks. Our recruiters, in fact our whole club works together to make stars out of what we got, and that's talent and that's a good footy club. In no way am I saying the eagles are better than all other teams, it's just an example. Any club can win a game, but few make it to a premiership. Geelong have done very well last season but now they're under pressure to keep their talent as the money starts to become a factor to these players once they've tasted premiership glory.
Yes Victoria has to support 10 clubs, but each club has its own ability to deal with what it has and make good footy. Its just as hard for the eagles to get up there as it is collingwood, and credit goes to the people who keep both clubs alive.
Yes carlton was a great club. I've never said they weren't great in the past. They're just not doing so well now, and all I have done is state the facts. You're not doing so good so no supporter in their right mind can realistically compare the success of a club like collingwood (or the eagles, port, or even geelong for that matter) last season because it just wasn't there.
Well I love a good Freo Vs Eagles western derby. We win some and lose some but in the end is a good contest and I enjoy watching it. So there's my bit although I am getting really sick of repeating myself.
(Hi Robert, sorry I've taken a break from living on facebook to ride my new motorcycle haha)