as much as people say that the dogs are second, I still think that the hawks are far superior over the dogs they have everything the dogs lack (forward targets), I will be very dissapointed if the dogs make the grand final, and if it is not hawthorn vs Geelong. The amount of skill I saw last night was one of the best I have seen, and the Geelong team was missing 4 all australians and one of the main parts of the geelong engine room. (Ablett, Ling, Egan, Milburn and also Wojinski)