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What do you all think about TUNNELING? (The Saints are comlplaining about it)
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John from Ballarat (Crows supporter), 28 Mar 2008 19:42, Last Reply: 28 Mar 2008 22:51 hide comment
If your not tall enough or good enough to get up there and spoil, stiff crap, if they are tunnelling and getting away with it good on them I say, but if they bring out a rule against it, well done Victoria, you've just won another winge. Who are the only ones who complain about these stupid little things??? Victorians, they cant keep their mouths shut if things dont go their way, but if they do go your way hey we came up with that idea!!!! What do the Interstate supporters do if things dont go their way, they sit back and cop it on the chin and await their revenge in their next match. Use have to change the rules to suit yourselves assholes
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 28 Mar 2008 22:51hide comment
if u dont like it follow a different code of footy. we are like the indians in cricket.
Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 27 Mar 2008 15:14, Last Reply: 28 Mar 2008 18:51 hide comment
probs will sound biased comin from a saints supporter but yeah... tough titties.
i play basketball n im tall n get a lot of rebounds n i get smaller players comin through and hittin my legs and lower back n that all the time. it is more dangerous in basketball offcourse because the court is harder but yeah.

i agree that as a defender u have to do somethin to stop a player markign the ball but i reackon "tunneling" is the rong tactic.

in my opinion the AFL need to review the rules and why some of the rules they have added were not put in place to begin with for a reason.

the hands in the back rule is the worst rule i have seen the afl put into the acctual season. i remeber the days wen carey and jackovic used to wrestle in the square or on the half forward line and carey pushed away n took a 1 handed mark, or someone takin a screamer.

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Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 28 Mar 2008 18:51hide comment
A little off topic, but:

There are still a few issues with hands in the back, but it was a sensible step, in my opinion. Two years ago, pushes in the back were the least consistently adjudicated free kicks in the game - forwards were making strong plays with their hands from behind, and you could never tell whether or nor a free kick would be paid; people often forget that. At least with hands in the back, there is a black-and-white definition for what is and isn't a free kick. Of course, the fact that umpires aren't always in the right position to see it complicates things.

One point I'll often make is about the famous Richardson free kick against Essendon - everyone was quick to damn the rule and state that "this would never have been a free kick before." Based on my memory of interpretations in the 2006 season, there was probably a 3/10 chance of a free kick being paid in that situation, and having such uncertainty is bad for everyone; at least when Richo was penalised, there was no ambiguity.

I think the AFL needs to take some lessons from the pass interference rule in American Football, in particular the rule regarding "catchable passes;" umpires should not pay hands in the back if the ball is clearly not markable, e.g. when the ball goes over the forward's head, he slows his lead, and the defender cannons into him with his hands.

Bethany from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 28 Mar 2008 15:15hide comment
This is the tactics that are being brought in because the AFL are stupid enough to bring in rules such as no hands in the back what are the backmen actually allowed to do these days stand there and do nothing seems that way. If a player does get serioulsy hurt from this tunnelling tactic then I say it would be the AFL's fault as they have taken every other right as a backmen away.
Daniel from Melbourne (Tigers supporter), 27 Mar 2008 13:06hide comment
When did the tactic of forcing a player under the ball become 'tunnelling'?

If that's what classes as 'tunnelling/bridging' well the world really is a soft place these days isn't it?

It's the bumping of the legs while a player is in the air, forcing him to flip and possibly damage his neck on landing. Not really that soft, but if it's allowed, will increase the value of big full-forwards who outmuscle opponents. Bring back Plugger.

Backmen are being umpired out of the game at the moment, and it is hardly a deliberate and malicious tactic to deliberately hurt someone. Bolton is just (as Archer said) using his grounded body weight to push Riewoldt under the apex of the ball so that he is unable to mark it. He can't put his hands on the back of Riewoldt, he can't chop his arms, so what else is he supposed to do?

The real issue here is not tunnelling, it is rather the constant rule changes that inhibit defending a marking contest that have brought about the prevalence of this tactic. As someone said, its been around for a while..

Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 26 Mar 2008 16:45hide comment
I give it 3 years and all a defender will be able to do is stand there and watch his opponent take the mark and even then a free kick will still be possible. How ****in precious is this game becoming? Plugger, Dunstall and Ablett would kick 150 plus every year if they were around for these bull**** rules
Andy from Melbourne (Bombers supporter), 26 Mar 2008 16:04hide comment
I totally agree with what daniel said, every foward has to put up with it.Riewoldt has to rely on his leads to take marks, body on body he's not as good thats why their complaining.The hands in the back rule has to go! i have know idea why they brought that crap rule into the AFL umpires have no idea and cant rule every hands in the back free its a joke if you watched the essendon vs north match you would know what i mean.
Daniel from Adelaide (Magpies supporter), 26 Mar 2008 15:41hide comment
Tunneling has been happening for years, the only reason it got brought up is cause its Riewoldt. I bet u if it were Blake or someone else nothing would have been said.

Archer even reckons it is normal and as long as u dont take his legs out on purpose then its fine. Nothing wrong with leaning into a player mid-flight as long as its not in a pushing motion.

Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 26 Mar 2008 14:39hide comment
It's an interesting point. It does make it almost impossible to defend a player who leads, jumps and stretches backwards to take an overhead mark. However, it is very dangerous. The important thing is to assess how deliberate the tactic was. It is worth remembering that a lot of balls were kicked over Riewoldt's head on Saturday night; tunnelling would not have happened had the lead been properly timed or the kick slightly shorter. Does anybody know what other sports have to say about tunnelling?
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