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Sheedy to coach Richmond?
Richmond can't be serious in actually wanting to appoint Kevin Sheedy as head coach in 2010. At this point Sheedy is of the age of 61 (62, Round 1, 2010), the Richmond job at this point is not going to be one of short term success. With the introduction of GC17 and Western Sydney, the drafts for the next few year are already going to be diluted, so what does Kevin hope to achieve. Richmond (board & football dept.) surely must look at a young coach who has the balls to take them across the long stretch (10+ years), the inclusion of Sheedy in talks for head coach of Richmond smacks of a quick fix. You can't cut corners and expect to get results. Thoughts...
By Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 2 Jul 2009 10:07
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 2 Jul 2009 10:17,
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Let's not forget Sheedy lost the plot in regards to where the game was headed. Dare I say it, what Knights has achieved has shown that. Sheedy's best job now is an ambassador to the AFL and consultant to Richmond. Richmond should be getting the funds together to offer Malthouse 1.5 million a year. He is worth that in memberships and the sleeping giant will awake. True Malthouse isn't young but his ability to teach and get through to kids can't be underestimated. Do priority picks still exist with the GC17 diluted drafts??
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Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 3 Jul 2009 17:22,
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With regards to priority pick I think they still will exist. But don't GC17 gain access to the top 15 kids before the draft (can't be stuffed checking nitty gritty right now, Tarrant probably knows), if that's the case the priority pick would be a kid who would have gone at pick 16 under normal circumstances. And generally speaking once you get past pick 20, it's pretty well pot luck, and let's face Richmond aren't that great at drafting.
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Christopher (Magpies supporter), 3 Jul 2009 18:17hide comment
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Gold Coast get access to players that are now ineligable for the draft due to the new age restrictions. Meaning Gold Coast will get access to players born in the early months of 1992 while every other club can only have access to players only born in 1991 and before. With the narrowing of the draft gap and the new picks going to Gold Coast bottom sides will struggle to grow. As for priority picks I don't think there will be due to the picks already being decided as to where which position team gets their picks at. There is a big enough gap in the 1st round between teams but yes it is still to a degree unfair on those bottom sides.
Tarrant (Blues supporter), 2 Jul 2009 17:45hide comment
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I agree. Sheedy's ability as a coach was exaggerated by his penchant for marketing the game. He was a very good coach, but he's no Norm Smith or Jack Oatey.
Christopher (Magpies supporter), 2 Jul 2009 17:51,
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I like it. If Collingwood go Buckley next season Mick is definately the best option. But the 2nd option is Kevin. He is excellent, experienced and just what the Tigers need to get back on track. They need a new different way of thinking which is exactly what he provides. If LA Lakers head coach Phil Jackson born in 1945 can take his team to an NBA championship then I would argue that being early 60s isn't a problem. I'd be looking at Leigh Matthews at the same time mind you. Matthews has that toughness which he would give Richmond that hard edge they need. So don't under rate experience.
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Craig from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 2 Jul 2009 18:32,
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The difference between Sheedy taking over the Tiges and Phil Jackson coaching the Lakers, is that Sheeds would be starting at scratch, where as Jackson took over a side that was from memory was there abouts in terms of making the playoffs, and he added some more pieces thanks to free agency and a more open trading system to make the side a championship contender. Personally, I dont think Sheeds is what Richmond needs, but it wouldnt suprise me if he is seriously considered for the job, or ends up getting the job.
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Christopher (Magpies supporter), 2 Jul 2009 20:11,
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I honestly don't mind Richmonds playing list at all. With a fit and healthy Richo they in my eyes at the beginning of the season were a boarderline top 8 side. They just missed out on the top 8 last season and with the additions of Ben Cousins and some nice youngsters particually Victery I still see them being a decent side in the future. Being good on paper doesn't win you a premiership but its a start and with an experienced coach I see Richmond as an improving team under Sheedy. Afterall a good coach gets the best out of his players and I think Sheedy would be successful more successful than most in doing that.
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Craig from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 3 Jul 2009 13:31hide comment
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The problem with Richmonds list is that on face value, the list doesnt look all that bad. However the problems have lied deeper than just talent. They have always been non- commital in terms of defensive pressure and playing for one another. I'm not too sure if Sheeds is the man to turn those aspects of the game around for them.
Matthew from Melbourne (Demons supporter), 2 Jul 2009 18:29 hide comment
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It would be good short term think. but it hard to believe he'll take them to their next Flag. What Do Richmond suporter think?
Mal (Blues supporter), 2 Jul 2009 18:41hide comment
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It would be good to see Richmond hopes rise again ala when Ben Cousins came aboard. Only to see them come crashing down to earth with a thud!!
Austin from Melbourne (Bombers supporter), 2 Jul 2009 20:35hide comment
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I couldn't see Sheedy committing to something like that.. I think the AFL need him as an ambassador more than Richmond need him as a coach. Leigh Matthews would be a better option..
Tarrant (Blues supporter), 2 Jul 2009 22:27hide comment
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It's hard to know what makes a good coach thesedays. The thought occurred to me during Terry Wallace's disastrous footy show interview. When asked if he would take responsibility for the poor state of Richmond's list, his answer was that we would do so, only if he could claim credit for the good players on the Western Bulldogs' list. In my mind, that's an extremely shabby opinion to hold - basically he's saying that a player is pre-determined to play at a certain quality from he moment he is drafted, and that nobody in the development coaching panel, VFL coaches, etc. has anything to do with how good a player becomes. This is, of course, rubbish, and I would suspect most people would agree.
Dennis from Geelong (Magpies supporter), 3 Jul 2009 0:02 hide comment
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First up Richmond can be SERIOUS because they haven't said a word about Sheedy as coach, what are you on about ? The idea was put forward by Kevin Bartlett. Its simply ilogical to imply Sheedy has "no balls" . If Kevin Sheedy has the desire drive and enthusiasm for the job , he would be a perfect candidate . His record at Essendon is superb, an average of 14 wins a season, and grandfinal appearances averaging at something like every 2 years. Kevin Sheedy has been, and still can be a successful coach,he is inovative, a motivator, a leader and above all "Knows" how to develop teams to succeed in finals. A 5 year contract for Sheedy would be far more beneficial to Richmond, than their previous coach's 5 years, and he would set the Tigers up perfectly for a young coach to take over from him, maybe a James Hird, I have no doubt about that>
Leon from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 3 Jul 2009 16:25hide comment
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I think give him 2-3 years, just to point the club in the right direction, similar to what Ron Barassi did for Sydney in the mid-90's. Of course it's not a long term solution, but everything else they've tried hasn't worked, so why not get a proven premiership coach whose enthusiastic about the job and club?
Matt (Saints supporter), 4 Jul 2009 1:06hide comment
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i think sheedy at the helm of the tigers for 2-3 maybe even 4 years would be a great idea. all they need is a bit of guiding and some clever recruiting... and sheedy was always the master of that. even if they just appoint him in a position to be able to help in the selection of players (drafting and trading) and maybe a mentoring role as coach i think the tigers would be better off.
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