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Most Overrated Players in the AFL
Here's my "Magnificent" 7 1. Justin Kositzche 2. Nick Riewoldt 3. Dale Thomas 4. Sam Mitchell 5. Cam Mooney 6. Quinten Lynch 7. Daniel Wells
I could go on but I'd like to know if people agree or if they want to defend these players, or if they have any players to add.
By Andrew from Melbourne (Tigers supporter), 17 May 2008 11:14
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 17 hours ago
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this post is getting less credible every weak. well done andrew... riewolt, kozi mitchel.... wow. so guy(Y)
Jake from Melbourne (Bombers supporter), 16 Jul 2008 19:47
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SAM MITCHELL AND RIEWOLDT!!! WHAT A JOKE!!! THEYRE NOT OVERRATED!!
Tom from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 14 Jul 2008 12:56
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Riewoldt and Kosi? thats laughable. I think any opposition would be sweatin over trying to match-up these 2. Steve Johnson should be up there. Yeah he is good at kickin goals, but he doesn't work very hard, doesn't do anything courageous and he isn't very good at all outside the forward line.
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Brad from Longford (Tigers supporter), 14 Jul 2008 16:47
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Reiwoldt is definetly not overrated and im not sure why people think he is!! But steve johnson is a gun aswel.. As for kosi not overrated either but he could and should be better..
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 15 Jul 2008 21:16
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u cant really judge kozis preformances to he builds up more confidence. injuries have ruined his career so far. hope he doesnt end up like cripps n plays around 100 games in 8 years
Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 12 Jul 2008 18:33
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o and i think eddie betts should be added to this list
Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 11 Jul 2008 23:22
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another very over rated preformance by reiwoldt and kozi.  . onli a tigers supporter could be so dumb.
Angela from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 10 Jul 2008 19:07
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Are you kidding, who would be the best 7
Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 2 Jul 2008 13:15
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Dale thomas by a country mile.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 4 Jul 2008 23:42
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You are a tool. Dale Thomas WOW, lets face it Carlton have no one even close to his talent. That is the one's they produce not steal, get for tanking or cheat. Your opinion is best left where it belongs in the loo with all the other Carlton morans.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 7 Jul 2008 19:34
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HAHAHAHAHAHA if thats ur opinion maybe u should put it in the same pile as the other. dale thomas is over rated. he is good. not as good as collingwood supporters think he is. go ahead. say somethin bout stkilda....
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 22:50
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Matt, Please you aren't one of these NUFF NUFF supporters, like Steve, Mal and Andrew. Hang on a minute, I will say something about St Kilda. Kept Grant Thomas around long enough to not win a premiership. I think you might have been spending to much time with the hookers and the drugs in St Kilda, they have made your mind hazy. Grant Thomas was nothing, Dale Thomas on the other hand well, he will be something once he completes his training. For &*^% sakes he is 5 years off his prime and all you wankers have no idea. Over rated that's the whole bloody St Kilda side, how many 1st round draft picks and can't even finish top 4. Remember the 80's, on paper one of the most talented sides but couldn't do ****, just wanted to party. Got to love the NUFF NUFF's that want to jump in to an argument. Not one simple point can be credit to any of the above mentioned NUFF NUFF's threads. Matt, was wondering why you would jump into this seems as you have no prior thoughts. Then I remembered you left a stupid NUFF NUFF comment about the Wakelin's and have probably got ya knickers in a knot as I mentioned the premiership players St Kilda let go. LOSER...........
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 7 Jul 2008 23:07
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see, typical collingwood supporter. attacks a club. ive said stkilda was over rated. if u dont believe me ask daniel from adelaide (also a collingwood supporter) and various other ppl on this forum. not once have i said they wernt. i have said its the medias fault also. i have also said that wat stkilda did to grant thomas was a disgrace. i think getting ross lyon as a coach is complete bull**** aswell. but thats not were talking about.
wats pathetic is u calling me a nuff nuff, wen all nuff nuffs are collingwood supporters...
anyway back to the point.
dale thomas is over rated. he may be good in the future after he "completes his training" but atm.... he isnt anything special... sure he takes a good mark occasionally but so does fiora.... sure he kicks some freaky goals but so does milne, farmer and other players that are nothing special. i have seen dale thomas play 4-6 good games in his career so far. 1 game was outstanding, the other 3-5... he was in there bests. collingwood supporters are in love with dale thomas. he isnt that good YET. get over it.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 23:15
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As I said Matt, can you read????? Your just put your two bobs worth in after I criticised your stupid comment about the Wakelin twins in another forum. As a result your opinion on Thomas is just that another stupid comment.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 7 Jul 2008 23:27
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lol me going for stkilda means i live in stkilda does it? haha. my opinion on dale thomas maybe just another stupid comment but im pretty sure ull find that more ppl in this forum agree with my opinion about him then urz, including collignwood fans. mate. wat i said about the wakelin sisters has nothing to do with my opinion of dale thomas. i was having a go at how weak they were at stkilda, and how they spent more time unconcious on the ground then acctually playing football on it. if ur to one eyed to realise that thomas isnt as good as collingwood fans seem to think he is, thats ur problem. i honestly dont care. i was just pointing out how ignorant u are.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 8 Jul 2008 0:00
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How am I ignorant??? As I said you have just hopped in to take a pot shot at me as I dished your opinion about the Wakelin twins. St Kilda regret letting them go, probably cost them a flag. As for Thomas well no one has yet shown me any evidence to prove he is over rated. Just wankers having a go at anything associated with Collingwood. Thomas is a good 3rd year player nothing more nothing less but with a huge future. Perhaps it's the lack of IQ of certain people that they do not understand the word over rated. Check out Rebecca's comment and you might understand a little more to give a better argument.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 8 Jul 2008 0:31
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lol. im not having a go at collingwod. good on em for taking advantage of there massive suport base by buying state of the art facilities. im having a go at collingwood fans BIASED opinion of dale thomas. no-one has shown me evidence of thomas being as highly rated as collingwood fans claim him to be. sure hes done some spectacular things. but hes onli put like.. 5 solid games together. he may have a good future, ive never once said he wont. all i have said is as far as im concerned.. as a lot of ppl will agree with, dale thomas isnt as good as collingwood fans say he is. i dont think stkilda regret letting either of the sisters go. it didnt cost us a flag because we were **** after 97 anyway. stkilda problem is there board. never good. always fire coaches for no reason. my opinion of dale thomas is liek a lot of peoples opinions on reiwoldt, dal santo and kozi... in my eyes niether reiwoldt or dal santo are over rated and the onli reason people say kozi is is because they know how good he can be wen he is fully fit and in form. u shouldnt let peoples opinions affect u so much lol.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 8 Jul 2008 19:21
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Simple fact Matt, I've come to realise their are so many NUFF NUFF's in this forum. If their was an under 23 All Australian side Dale Thomas would be in it. So how can he be over rated. No this forum has given the NUFF NUFF's an opportunity to have a go at anything to do with Collingwood. Dal Santo is over rated, a few years ago he was the talk of the town. Put him in another club and he might yet rise again. Reiwoldt hasn't risen either to the once lofty predictions. As for Kozi well finally you make a good point, injuries have made it hard to judge where his at.
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Matt from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 8 Jul 2008 19:30
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ok so wat facts do u have that dal santo is over rated?. sometimes he doesnt try as hard as he should. but i dont think hes over rated. as for reiwoldt... lol. the onli thing he cant do is kick straight. i cant see how u can say that he is over rated. i liek **** stiring. i do heaps of it. but i do think that dale thomas is over rated. he mite be in an aus under 23 teams but he isnt as good as collingwood fans claim him to be.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 10 Jul 2008 18:26
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Matt, You along with the other NUFF NUFF have made many claims about Dale Thomas and "he isn't as good as what Collingwood fans claim him to be". So Matt have you done quantitative or qualitative research on this?? What you haven't?? Maybe before you make up **** you should do some research and you might even be surprised. I dare say you "opinion" wouldn't be this way if it wasn't Collingwood, jealously is a curse. At least ya honest about **** stirring. Good Luck for the weekend, hope ya smash Carlton - bloody cheats they are.
Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 5 Jul 2008 20:52
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Are you seriously suggesting that Dale Thomas is better than Marc Murphy? Wow what a dumb comment. Anyway you forget that Collingwood tanked the last half of the 2005 season in order to get Thomas. And who did we steal? How did we tank? We have been **** for 6 years not tanking just ****. To tank you must have the ability to win a game As for the cheating we have paid for our crime so the issue should be dead and buried. You forget we are not the only ones to get caught. Melbourne , Essendon and Collingwood have all been caught. Also if you are going to call someone a **** spell it correctly otherwise you look like the moran, sorry ****
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 6 Jul 2008 1:19
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Carlton didn't tank last year??? yeah right..... Chris Judd's manager Paul Conners came out and said he told Carlton in June Judd was coming home, funny that they didn't win another game for the year hey. This was confirmed by Conners himself!!!!!!! Your punishment for cheating wasn't severe enough!!! Look at the Bombers, their now in a situation where they could spend the next decade bottom 8 because of the Gold Coast situation. Dick Pratt saved you as did the most Australians he ripped off. Ohh well at least he got his just desserts and Carlton again look like the cheats they are. When did Collingwood tank???? Ohh u say 2005, never mind the injuries to key players and the overall standard that year. Melb, Essendon and the Pies breached the salary cap on a minor scale and were punished fairly. Did one of our presidents get up and declare the opposition cheaters when they knew all along that it was them who in fact had cheated?? Get ya facts right and maybe your opinion will be respected dick'head. By the way I meant to spell it wrong so that it was plain to see. Gotta love the Nuff Nuff supporters that want to jump into an argument because it's Collingwood. I think it's called Penis Envy...... Is Marc Murphy better than Thomas, I respectfully will decline that comment until a few years time. BUT yes you got him cause you won the wooden spoon which you have done more than Collingwood. The wooden spoon was as a result of 1st round draft picks taken off you and failure to perform, so indeed you got him for cheating in the 1st place. LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 6 Jul 2008 21:16
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We did the same thing you guys did in 2005 sent all the players with injuries off to the Surgeon. Is that tanking or list management? You know 99% of Carlton supporters are p***ed off at the salary cap rorts of the previous board from 7 years ago. The have really f***ed up the club as a result. However the point I was trying to make was that over 5 clubs have been caught (Essendon twice) the thing that Elliott did wrong was not come clean when they had the amnesty. As far a penis envy goes mate we couldn't give a S'hit about Collingwood we are better than them. You are underachievers 1 flag in fifty years and your all still going on about it. Your probably sitting there in your 90 Premiership t-shirt now aren't you. Your all worried cause were back and will win a flag before Collingwood.
Anyway the question was is Thomas overrated bit harsh but he puts himself out there with the media exposure he has. So therefore he might bring that upon himself tall poppy syndrome. P.S you shouldn't call someone dickhead, NUFFNuff or Loser when you don't know who they are or what they do. Can get you into trouble
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 6 Jul 2008 23:54
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You are better than Collingwood. Yeah right, who will play finals???? Who will start their pre season first??? Thomas goes around looking for the media hey??? The media want him cause the fans love the way he plays footy, like a kid on Xmas day. By the way don't put Carlton's cheating in the same bracket as anyone else's. They were minor unlike the Blues. Who laid the game saving tackle in 99 to put you in the grand final??? Yeah that's right Fraser Brown, the same Brown who wouldn't give evidence into the AFL investigation. So..... you are correct Carlton aren't they only one's who have rigged the salary cap but the others were minor breaches that some would say were honest mistakes. Carlton cheated simple as that. As for the 99% of Carlton supporters you talk about, well he was your president and you voted for him..
Were any of these 99% complaining about Dick Pratt after he was caught ripping off everyday Australians???? No just like in Elliott's case silence. Cheating is in ya culture. Simple as that.
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 6:36
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Underachievers always looking back. Unlike us looking to the future. Being second is in your culture.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 11:56
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Your opinion is unfounded and uneducated. However you are a Carlton woman. Looking to the future hey???? How funny. Carlton has a bunch of talented kids who will in turn smash your salary cap, Judd already takes a big cut plus Fev, if he stays. Come their turn they will have deserved it. Therefore it will be alot easier to entice to a rival club. Might or might not happen however given ya history the AFL will closely watch ya books. So yes I agree your future looks good at the moment but not as rosy as you Carlton people and morans think. Star Studded midfield but short sighted drafting means your defence is suspect and with the talent, Judd and maybe Fev you will find it difficult to entice a quality backman from another club. With the Gold Coast coming in you can expect to lose a player or too. So look to the future with excitement, I would. However be prepared it might all come crumbling down. I don't think looking back 10 years is an issue. Even if you win a flag with the current group, it would be tainted because you got them from being punished and having a few lean years. By the way, you might be having an ok year to date but finals won't happen. Until the last few rounds Top 8 clubs haven't respected you. So less wins and more losers to finish the year which might ensure you get the quality backman you need.
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 20:11
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If you knew anything about our club you would know of players like Bower (beat Cloke easy) Jamieson, and we have a 19 year old CHB in the magoos who has been BOG for about 6 weeks Ausitn. So our defence is looking good for the next few years. Unlike yours con taining of FEV's bunny's O'Brien, Wakelin, Brown (given that he's a kid though we'll let him off). Yes we have had an ok year and I rekon we won't make finals also but I'd rather have our list than yours. That's just my opinion. But back to the Thomas issue he's goin alright but I'd prefer Wellingham he's a ripper. What makes you the expert, whats your credentials to call me uneducted and unfounded? Cause I've played footy as high as VFA seniors, been on Melbourne's U19 list, played over 200 games senior footy and coached two premierships. What have you done sat on the couch and ate chips?
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 22:58
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The beauty of cyberspace Mal, we are all equal. So you have done so much hey but couldn't crack the big time so instead want to sit on facebook and bitch and moan. Yes you are uneducated and unfounded, make a point that counts. I haven't seen one yet. You leave crap to have a go at Collingwood. Your point of view on Wellingham compared to Thomas is a classic. With so much experience in football you would think you would know better. Your full of **** end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 8 Jul 2008 6:56
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what you don't think Wellingham's gunna be a gun? You've got blinkers on mate.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 8 Jul 2008 19:11
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Did I say that???? If there was an under 23 All Australian side Thomas would be in. Wellingham wouldn't, simple. Wellingham is exciting though and I look forward to his development as I do all young players in the AFL.
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Mal from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 8 Jul 2008 20:02
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Cause Wellingham's only played what maybe 5-6 games, even Thomas wouldn't have been in Under23 squad after that amount of games. I just liked what I've seen of him in the games i've seen. Reason good 2nd efforts, finds ball in traffic as uses it. Not many guys in first few games have composure they tend to rush. that's how you can spot the good ones
Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 12:17
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Hey mister educated... our backline seems to stand up quite well against your pathetic forward line. In fact, our whole team stands up very well... well enough to beat you twice! You should spend a whole lot more time worrying about your own team than ours. You have no midfield, a weak defence and a forward line full of old hacks or young show offs...
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Andrew from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 12:40
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ur funny how can u say that we have a pathetic forward line last time i here i think channel 10 and chabbel 7 have both said that COLLINGWOOD has the best small forwards in the competition yes u read correctly the COMPETITION ( aka if u dont no them i will let ur read, Medhurst 26 yrs 2nd in comp in goals for small forward on behind motlop, Thomas 20 can take a great overhead mark and kick fantastic goals, Davis 24 very quick and agile and can kick impossible goals, Didak also can kick impossible goals also in All-Australian form according to Michael Voss) u guys rely on 1 person Fev and if he goes who is going to kick ur goals Betts hahahahah, in regards to that u beat us twice yes u do match up well against us so what we match up very well against Sydney and GEELONG last time i checked we beat geelong by 86 points and we have beaten the best defenceive side this decade the last 5 times (last 3 on there home turf) So we have no midefield lol we have Pendelbury ( who is better than every midefielder u have besides the juddernought, Didak averging 23 disposals a game over last month of football yep ur right we have no midefield lol now for our defence, we have an up and coming star CHB in Brown who took out J.Brown touted as the best CHF in the comp beat Pavlich and Richo( Brownlow medal form) in his first 3 games of AFL, we also have Heath Shaw prob in the top 5 best running defenders in the league and also Wakelin who at 33 still beats his oppents most games Carlton match up very well against us but last comment explain to me this you can say that u beat us twice but we smashed Essendon on ANZAC day by 12 goals but u guys lose to them???? explain that So called Mrs Educated
speak again only if u have soemthing decent to say otherwise shut the f### up ******
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Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 12:54
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It all means jack sh'it because you still lose games you should win. Are you guys ever gonna win another flag? or is one every 50 years enough? Maybe if you realized that the media are all about ratings and selling papers you would know why they talk Collingwood up so much. Wouldn't believe everything you see or hear though...
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:44
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Steve, You are yet to make a decent argument so I won't waste much of my time. Except to say the papers and media talk Collingwood so much as we are Collingwood, love or hate us people want to know about us. How much is Carlton's jumper worth, you don't know?? Wouldn't have any idea? Almost half that of Collingwood's.
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Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:52
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Guy dont get sucked in remember they support Carlscum... Do i need to say anymore... :-) Dale thomas overrated... bloody hilarious... Rumour has it, they are struggling to fit fev in the salary cap... Ouch... he will sign but the point that there struggling is awesome... :-)
Come on carlscum please remember there is a salary cap... lol... Go Pies...
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Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 15:03
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Oh Becky, knew you would not be far away. are you upset that Eddie's new bitch Roberta got picked for Zoo weekly ahead of you?
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 23:04
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Steve, How has this anything to do with AFL??? You really should get over your little man syndrome. It's not Rebecca's fault your genes dictated a below average penis.
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Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 8 Jul 2008 10:08
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well Gay, my penis size never bothered you before....
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 8 Jul 2008 19:14
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Ohh, I've never heard that before. Moran.
Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 8 Jul 2008 10:21
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What ever Steve, your comments dont stand for much i mean eddies new bitch, and i didnt get into zoo unlike your mrs i have been taught morals and manners... grow a set mate your pathetic... Go Pies...
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Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 8 Jul 2008 10:25
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lol! morals and manners... yeah!
Daniel from Adelaide (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:48
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Carltons guernsey musnt have been worth too much since they sold it to M&Ms years back. The most disgraceful thing ive seen in football. "We are the aqua blues.... we are the all not so dark navy blues... were the team that sold our sh1t jumper....."
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:57
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We are the Navy Blues, nah the white Blues nah the Aqua Blues. What are we again??? CHEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 15:04
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ouch... stop.... it hurts! you are a vicious man Guy. lol!
Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:37
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Andrew, Spot on mate. Mrs Educated, if you are going to write something at least back it up with facts...... Collingwood has to date the 4th best attack in the comp, old hacks you say however how many games and goals has Rocca kicked yet he is the only one over 30. Our defence is the 6th best in the league and considering the premature retirement of Clement plus the long term injury of Presti and your argument is shot to pieces. Now lets look at Carlton's defence, 11th best in the comp, DID you see that 11th. I doubt you have one backman who would be chosen in our defence ahead of our current group. As for your attack well a little better 9th in the comp. If you were to take out Fev's contribution or even half it you would be around 13 - 14th. Better pray Fev stays hey. Yes you might have beaten us twice but as I've said countless times before we didn't respect you. 1st time was a good win, 2nd well we were tired and looking towards the break. You see it's a hard season for Collingwood, every team putting in extra to win, just look at Melbourne Queens Birthday. Hang on a minute are you talking to me???? No I just farted.
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Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:46
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excuses, excuses! I wish we could play Collingwood every week! now back to the topic.... Dale Thomas is the most over rated player in todays game.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 7 Jul 2008 14:51
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Once again you show your lack of knowledge when it comes to footy, just like 80% of your supporters. LOSER Are you ever going to have a decent opinion?????
Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 5 Jul 2008 2:12
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fu'ck off wanker. I am not the only one who thinks Thomas is the most over rated going around. have a look how many times he is mentioned in this thread...
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 5 Jul 2008 18:39
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Hey fu'ckhead, maybe you should read Rebecca's comment, at least she makes sense. Jealously is why Dale Thomas is in this thread so much, not to mention he was in the author's original list. Typical Blues supporter, know fu'ck all about the truth. CARLTON ARE CHEATS, HISTORY HAS CONSIGNED THAT TO THE CHRONICLES OF THE AFL.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 5 Jul 2008 18:41
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By The Way, Sam Mitchell and Cam Mooney were mentioned in the original list, are you kidding??? No just like Thomas shouldn't have been there.
Steve from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 5 Jul 2008 18:27
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Matte from Roma (Lions supporter), 9 Jul 2008 19:05
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my nomination is Des headland Fremantle
Bethany from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 9 Jul 2008 14:44
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Justin Kositzche at number one is a bit harsh he hasn't had anytime to live up to his #2 draft pick he's always injured you have to give the guy a chance to prove himself. Sam Mitchell shouldn't be in there and Nick Riewoldt people just don't get how hard he works for the team to win what more do people want him to do? His kicking isn't up to scratch, no but I still love having him in our side I think he is a gun.
John from Melbourne (Bulldogs supporter), 8 Jul 2008 12:32
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I agree with most of them, but i'd have Big Q as my most overrated. Kosi lacks peripheral awareness, Riewoldt is a Troll Doll in a St.Kilda jumper and Wells is too flashy. Mooney and Mitchell are still undisciplined, but undoubted matchwinners on their day. However, Dale Thomas is a player who has avoided the second-year blues and is becoming a genuine star. Add into your overrated list Cam Bruce, although I hate to say it, Gia (still makes too many errors under pressure) and Shaun Burgoyne.
Darcy from Melbourne (Saints supporter), 6 Jul 2008 23:16
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Putting a new twist to this board, I think one of the most UNDERRATED players is Robert Harvey. Plainly because he's not a show pony, that's why he doesn't get recognised as much. He's 36 going on 37 and he's running with 17 year olds. Go figure. I think Barry Hall is overrated. I always hear good things about him, then I watch him play.
Chris (Tigers supporter), 1 Jul 2008 12:35
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Nick Riewoldt by an absolute mile, useless as tits on a bull. falls over at every contest, kicks like a girl.
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Alisha (Saints supporter), 6 Jul 2008 14:13
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Chris, fair comment but now Ross has followed your Mob tactics and playing Nick on the wing like Richo and he is going great guns!! The problem was our team was relying on him too much to mark and kick the ball straight. Also being our main target up forward made it worse due to the opposition manning up on him times 3 when the ball was down our end.
Gavin from Ballarat (Kangaroos supporter), 1 Jul 2008 13:21
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hes not that bad mate but could play better
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Chris (Tigers supporter), 1 Jul 2008 16:21
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how can i take you seriously mate, you are calling gary ablett overatted, you are kidding ya self pal. i'm not a cats man but if he ain't the player going around at present then i never played 30 years of footy. St Nick an't or won't stay on his feet mate, you pay attention to the way he plays, the way he drops the ball whist kicking, nah mate he was set up by the media, numb 1 draft pick and isj ust a big sheila. Bloody crying on the side lines against Brissy that time, what a cat.
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Craig from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 3 Jul 2008 11:38
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bit harsh on riewoldt. yes he should kick more goals no doubting that, but a bit unfair to call him a shiela, do you remember that mark against sydney the other yr? hardly the make up of a shiela? its a pity more of the other over rated saints players dont give as much to their football club as wat riewoldt does. but yes u are right about ablett. head and shoulders above everyone else at this moment of time.
Adam (Hawks supporter), 6 Jul 2008 14:09
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Have to say mate that there isn't a tiger player that I would take before the 7 mentioned!
Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 5 Jul 2008 10:34
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Dale Thomas is a kid, so how does a kids ability yet to prosper make him overrated... he hasn't even played a 100 games yet and his overrated please pull your heads in give him time to grow mentally and physically... His exciting to watch, and even when he makes errors i know with time he will master all them and become a great little player... Go Pies...
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Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 5 Jul 2008 14:04
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He is overrated for the following reason: Collingwood fans and media consistently bombard us with comments about "Thomas and Pendlebury", "Pendlebury and Thomas," "Thomas and Pendlebury." Outside of Collingwood, we can all see it with Pendlebury. All we see with Thomas is a little boy who plays flashy football, rather than good quality team football. Right at this moment, he does not deserve equal billing with Pendlebury, or even close to it. Quite frankly, I don't think he'll ever be close to Pendlebury. Furthermore, Mike Sheahan had Dale Thomas in his top 50 at the start of the season. He will not be there at the end of 2008, and I doubt you could honestly disagree with me. Perhaps he'll be back in there some day â€" in fact, he probably will â€" but certainly not this year. That is why he is overrated.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 5 Jul 2008 18:33
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Tarrant, you make some good points and I'II agree with almost all of them. However Rebecca has made the best point about Thomas, how can someone who has played less than 60 games be over rated?? Yes you might hear alot about Pendlebury and Thomas but why not, they are young and exciting.
Anyone who says Thomas is over rated will in several seasons maybe sooner be eating humble pie.
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Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 5 Jul 2008 21:24
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I see your point and agree in principle, but I suppose I'll bring up Mike Sheahan's top 50 again - because that's a clear example of a here-and-now rating system where the player, however young he may have been, was rated higher than he probably deserved to be. But as you rightfully point out, none of this means that he's necessarily consigned to being overrated for life. He's got a whole career to prove himself. Also, the fact that he's basically the marketing face for Collingwood comes into effect. That makes him seem highly rated in the eyes of the public, so when he underperforms compared with his teammates, we can rightly feel as though he has been overrated in that role.
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Guy (Magpies supporter), 6 Jul 2008 0:36
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Yes indeed. Really though Mike Sheahan's top 50 means jack **** to me. He is the over rated media personality, several stars and many clubs of the AFL think lowly of him. At the end of the day the question must be asked??? How does Collingwood and Mick Malthouse rate Dale Thomas? Not bad for a young bloke in his 3rd year. Heaps of promise to work with. The over rated list was crap anyway where was Des Healand or Aaron Firoa??? A novice asking a question. Dale Thomas shouldn't have been there, alot of people hopped on board as he plays for Collingwood. Simple as that.
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Tarrant from Melbourne (Blues supporter), 6 Jul 2008 12:30
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That highlights the biggest issue - how does one define overrated? Nobody can doubt that Aaron Fiora was drafted way too high, and was overrated by talent scourts. But does anyone actually rate him now? Certainly not. So is he overrated? You say yes because he was then; I say no because he isn't now. The whole debate is very vague.
Guy (Magpies supporter), 6 Jul 2008 0:40
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Yeah and was Polak????????????????????????? Number 4 was he in in the draft behind Hodge, Ball and Judd. There is the most over rated player according to the draft and potential. Even before his accident with the tram, a likely delisting at the end of the year for Richmond.
Rebecca from Melbourne (Magpies supporter), 6 Jul 2008 12:28
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What a game from our man dale, bloody awesome... Go Pies...
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