well it has started well hasnt it

i agree with you that the draft needs to be changed but if we put 8 teams in a hat it needs to be weight in some way. like the bottom team has 20% change of getting no.1 second bottom 15% and so on. thats what the NBA does and the bottom team hasnt got the no.1 pick in a number of years.

srsly peter... u are a joke.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA dream on!!!

Still VFL which teams have one the last 8 Flags

2000 Essendon 19. 21. (135) def. Melbourne 11. 9. (75)
2001 Brisbane Lions 15. 18. (108) def. Essendon 12. 10. (82)
2002 Brisbane Lions 10. 15. (75) def. Collingwood 9. 12. (66)
2003 Brisbane Lions 20. 14. (134) def. Collingwood 12. 12. (84)
2004 Port Adelaide 17. 11. (113) def. Brisbane Lions 10. 13. (73)
2005 Sydney 8. 10. (58) def. West Coast 7. 12. (54)
2006 West Coast 12. 13. (85) def. Sydney 12. 12. (84)
2007 Geelong 24. 19. (163) def. Port Adelaide 6. 8. (44)

3 Queensland
2 Victoria
1 South Australia
1 Western Australia
1 New South Wales

Since the AFL started

1990 Collingwood Essendon 13.11 (89) - 5.11 (41)
1991 Hawthorn West Coast 20.19 (139) - 13.8 (86)
1992 West Coast Geelong 16.17 (113) - 12.13 (85)
1993 Essendon Carlton 20.13 (133) - 13.11 (89)
1994 West Coast Geelong 20.23 (143) - 8.15 (63)
1995 Carlton Geelong 21.15 (141) - 11.14 (80)
1996 North Melbourne Sydney 19.17 (131) - 13.10 (88)
1997 Adelaide St Kilda 19.11 (125) - 13.16 (94)
1998 Adelaide North Melbourne 15.15 (105) - 8.22 (70)
1999 Kangaroos Carlton 19.10 (124) - 12.17 (89)
2000 Essendon Melbourne 19.21 (135) - 11.9 (75)
2001 Brisbane Lions Essendon 15.18 (108) - 12.10 (82)
2002 Brisbane Lions Collingwood 10.15 (75) - 9.12 (66)
2003 Brisbane Lions Collingwood 20.14 (134) - 12.12 (84)
2004 Port Adelaide Brisbane Lions 17.11 (113) - 10.13 (73)
2005 Sydney West Coast 8.10 (58) - 7.12 (54) 4
2006 West Coast Sydney 12.13 (85) - 12.12 (84)
2007 Geelong Port Adelaide 24.19 (163) - 6.8 (44)

3 - Queensland
8 - Victoria
3 - South Australia
3 - Western Australia
1 - New South Wales

I mean since Victoria pumps most of the money into the game i think thats pretty good mate, the comp is australian. Dont want to be rude as i like SA and the way you guys promote the game, you really cant be unhappy with your list and you have a great coach. Crows will be up there pushing this year. Being a Blues Man i would be happy with pulling a number out of a hat. But your right something needs to change.

Peter has a point. The vitriol has risen significantly, particularly since Judd came across. I've seen so many posts about how little Judd and Stevens are going to help, that I wonder who they're trying to convince, and maybe that they're trying to squeeze in as much criticism as they can while it's still valid. I know I'd be doing the same if all of this happened to Collingwood.

I'm united with John on this. Carlton lose their last couple of games of the season to 'win' the wooden spoon, so they get the priority draft pick!! Did anyone see the Footy Show last night? From the mouth of Tony Libratore himself!!

"They like to send us champions" ROFPML!!
Whatever champions they've sent you before now have obviously done jack **** for you!

Also remember that Juddy is only one man, one team player, it takes another 21 to make up the team on the day!