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Geelong '08 - Pick Your Best 22
I've tried several times this summer to pick a best 22 & I just cant seem to do it without feeling like I've done a player who missed out an injustice.... My best 22, to assume a full list of players available (not including N Ablett of course): B: Mackie, Scarlett, Harley
HB: Enright, Egan, Milburn
C: Kelly, Bartel, Wojcinski
HF: Lonergan, Mooney, S Johnson,
F: Chapman, Hawkins, Stokes
R: Ottens, G Ablett, Ling
IC: Corey, Selwood, Blake, Rooke Em: Byrnes, Hunt, Prismall Some notable absentees including Tenace, D Johnson & Varcoe. Also think that Gamble, Djeukurra & Taylor all will push for spots this year. I keep feeling like im being harsh on Hunt, Prismall & Byrnes, but Egan is an automatic (Hunt), Selwood & Rooke just shade Prissa & I have Stokesy & Chappy ahead of Byrnes for small forward. Thoughts anyone?
By Dale (Cats supporter), 6 Mar 2008 21:23
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Paul from Wagga Wagga (Cats supporter), 15 Apr 2008 10:50
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B:Mackie,Scarlett, Hunt HB: Enright, Harley, Milburn C:Kelly, Bartel, Corey HF:Chapman, Mooney, S Johnson F:Stokes, Hawkins, Selwood R: Ottens, G Ablett, Ling IC: Blake, Rooke, Prismall, Taylor EM:Byrnes, Varcoe, Tenance Wojcinski is quick but he needs to work on his tackling. He is keen to tackle guys but everytime he does he gives away a free quick. I think it is time for Prismall to get a run along with varcoe give them a chance to mix it up early
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Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 15 Apr 2008 13:19
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Wojcinski is our X-factor and must be included in our best 22!
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Glen (Cats supporter), 6 Jul 2008 21:15
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I agree mate he gives us so much run off the half back flank and through the middle. Runs round blokes like they are witches hats, his giving awayu free kicks is a concern tho, but when u se him runing down the wing on the MCG on the last day in the 3rd quater and he kicks goal of the year, that will be why he is in the side
Adam from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 28 Apr 2008 4:20
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B: Harley, Scarlett, Hunt HB: Milburn, Egan, Enright C: Selwood, Bartel, Corey HF: Kelly, Mooney, S Johnson F: Chapman, Hawkins, Stokes R: Ottens, G Ablett, Ling IC: Blake, Rooke, Wojcinski, Gamble Em: Taylor, Prismall, Tenace Hawkins is a much better forward player than Lonergan. He has a bigger body and can take a better contested mark. There quite a few other players who have missed out who probably couldn't have been inculded. The future for Geelong looks bright.
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Glen (Cats supporter), 6 Jul 2008 21:11
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Unfortunetly Hawkins hasnt taken a mark yet. They just dont stick!!!! On the lead its always straight through the dukes and well havnt seen a good pack mark yet. N Ablett took more marks. Stick with Tom Lonergan he is having a crack and wants it more
Jodie from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 30 Jun 2008 19:47
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B: Milburn, Scarlett, Hunt HB: Enright, Egan, Harley C: Kelly, Bartel, Corey HF: Stokes, Mooney, S Johnson F: Chapman, Lonergan, Byrnes R: Ottens, Ablett, Ling IC: Selwood, Blake, Rooke, Wojcinski Em: Mackie, Prismall, Taylor. Couldn't fit Mackie in, just think he is a bit of a marshmallow sometimes if he has too put his head over the ball.
Hawkins also needs to go harder at the contest, most forwards would kill to have his size and he doesn't use it.
Gamble is a bit stiff loses his spot to Lonergan simply because Lonergan can play back or forward if required. (North Melb. game this year is case in point)
Dominic from Blackheath (Cats supporter), 30 Jun 2008 13:29
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B: Milburn, Scarlett, Harley HB: Makie, Enright, Egan C: Corey, Bartel, Selwood HF: S Johnson, Mooney, Chapman F: Stokes, Gamble, Varcoe R: Ottens, G Ablett, Ling IC: Rooke, Kelly, Blake, Taylor Em: Byrnes, Wojcinski, Hunt I know it's a bit Different but i believe it would make a strong side
Jake from Sydney (Cats supporter), 10 Apr 2008 22:27
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B: Mackie, Scarlett, Harley(c) HB: Enright, Egan, Milburn C: Ling, Bartel, Kelly HF: S.Johnson, Mooney, Selwood F: Stokes, Hawkins, Chapman R: Ottens, G.Ablett, Corey IC: Blake, Wojcinski, Gamble, Prismall Em: Rooke, Hunt, Taylor And those emergencies are very unlucky. Fair dinkum, what a team, Prismall hasn't had a game in 2008 yet, and he would be a dominant midfielder in any other team. Hope the boys stick together, so we can create the 'dynasty' 5 in a row...
Justin (Cats supporter), 10 Apr 2008 14:08
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B: Mackie, Scarlett, Harley HB: Enright, Egan, Milburn C: Corey, Bartel, Wojcinski HF: Selwood, Mooney, Chapman F: S Johnson,Ottens , Stokes R: Blake, G Ablett, Ling IC: Hunt, Kelly,Gamble, Hawkins EM: Prismall, Rooke, Varcoe Couple of tough decisions Monica and James can swap during the season Hunt needs to be more consistant Rooke we don't need another tagger and i would rate others above him for midfield options. Hawkins needs game time still looks lazy at times
Michael from Kangaroo Flat (Cats supporter), 9 Apr 2008 14:33
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B: Mackie, Scarlett, Harley HB: Enright, Egan, Milburn C: Corey, Bartel, Wojcinski HF: Selwood, Mooney, Chapman F: S Johnson, Hawkins, Stokes R: Ottens, G Ablett, Ling IC: Prismall, Blake, Rooke, Kelly EM: Hunt, Lonergan, Gamble
Tyson from Deniliquin (Cats supporter), 9 Apr 2008 10:33
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B Mackie Scarlet Harley HB Enright Egan Milburn C Kelly Bartel Ling HF S Johnson Mooney Chapman F Stokes Hawkins Selwood R Ottens G Ablett Corey Int Rooke Hunt Blake Wojcinski Em Gamble Lonergan Gamble is stiff, such a great start but you cant fault the cats depth. I really hope they drop Byrnes soon, he is so frustrating.
John from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 7 Apr 2008 17:01
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B: Mackie, Scarlett, Harley HB: Enright, Egan, Milburn C: Corey, Bartel, Selwood HF: Stokes, Mooney, S Johnson F: Champman, Hawkins, Stokes R: Ottens, Ablett, Ling IC: Kelly, Blake, Gamble, Wojcinski i agree with marshall this is a great team
Marshall from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 2 Apr 2008 0:11
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B: Mackie, Scarlett, Harley HB: Enright, Egan, Milburn C: Corey, Bartel, Selwood HF: Stokes, Mooney, S Johnson F: Champman, Hawkins, Stokes R: Ottens, Ablett, Ling IC: Kelly, Blake, Gamble, Wojcinski Kelly is used only as a midfield rotation, and Gamble comes in to add goalkicking power. But with Rooke, Byrnes, Taylor, West, Tenace, Johnson and Varcoe all missing out means we have a very good squad
Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 7 Mar 2008 11:55
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Great stuff Dale how good does it look. Can't really find any faults in your team except Joel Corey should never be on the bench and I mean never. I would probably move Lonergan to the bench Corey to a wing and Kelly to half forward. Selwood on the other wing and Wojak to the bench. As for Byrnes he is one of the luckiest premiership players ever.
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Dale (Cats supporter), 10 Mar 2008 21:21
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Yeah, agree about Joel Corey... I almost forgot him when I was picking the team :o... Wouldnt swap Selwood for Wojak on the wing tho... Selwood is a much better in and under player & better suited to the midfield rotation... Wojak on the wing would be free to use his pace to exploit opposition more... Disagree a little about Shan Byrnes... yeah he's down in the pecking order a little for small forwards... but he does win his own ball & if he could kick straighter would be pushing Stokesy as he matches him point for point in the speed & intensity stakes... he didnt luck his spot in the premiership side by any stretch. Im a little 50/50 on Selwood & Prismall too... Selwood had a real bumper year last year and I reckon hes a bloody gun, but I rate Prissa just as highly... having to leave him on the emergency list was tough... Same goes for Hunt... I love watching him play & his kicking is just a joy to watch, but the only person I'd be able to swap him into the side for is Mackie... & he also had a breakout year last year too...
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Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 11 Mar 2008 10:36
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I must admit to having a certain bias towards Corza, since that smother of his in the last quarter of the prelim. That really took my breath away! I might have been a little harsh on Byrnes but lets see how many games he gets this year. As for Prisa I was glad he wasn't one of the ones we had to let go to ease our cap problems. It will be a real test of our decision makers to ensure we don't lose too many players at the end of this year. Would hate to become another Essendon of 2000 and lose starting 18 players like they were forced to do just through poor list management and success. Are you as pissed off as me that as Premiers we have to travel round 1?
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Dale (Cats supporter), 17 Mar 2008 21:09
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It kinda sux balls that they gotta travel in Rnd 1.... but as I said in another thread, if you gotta play interstate, best it being Rnd 1 with the advantage of the extra recovery time (from playing Thursday night). As for Corey, well, dont blame ya for a certain bias... I have had one for years, the guy is a gun... it actually ashamed me once you mentioned it that I nearly forgot him in my 22..
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Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 18 Mar 2008 10:38
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Never looked at it that way, so good point. Also playing interstate Round 1 means you should pretty much be full strength which we are apart from Wojak, hence giving us more of a chance to take the 4pts
John from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 11 Mar 2008 11:05
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I personally think that Lonergan is over rated & will be staying in the Reserves unless Tom Hawkins struggles to do what he is capable of. Gamble is dominating at the moment & until Egan comes back from injury I imagine that Harry Taylor will be filling in & learning his role until further notice. Djerrkura & Varcoe don't look like they have what it takes to really threaten for a spot in the seniors at this stage. And I also think that Blake & West sill be going head to head every week for the 2nd Ruck possie in the team. Ah well I'd much rather be in our position that any other team. Another prediction is that we might have a bit of a rotating roster this year just like the Australian cricket team when they were at their peak. Because we do need to take the time to give the youngsters a go so we don't get caught out at any stage over these next few years.
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Dale (Cats supporter), 17 Mar 2008 21:39
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Tough call on Lonners - hasnt had any real opportunities at top flight since his accident... time will tell I guess, but Leigh Tudor (VFL coach) rated him pretty well & reckons he'll push for senior selection on his own merits this year in an article I read round December. Have to agree with you assessment on Varcoe & Djerkurra at the moment; neither really wins enough of their own ball for me to fit them into the senior team, which is why I rate Byrnes as the first small forward backup... his kicking may not be great, but his defensive pressure & speed is up there... Also have to agree with the ruck; which is why im seriously annoyed we lost Kingy in trade week... one, Im a HUGE Steven King fan and have been for years, ever since he took over from John Barnes as no. 1 ruck; two, Blakey woulda been fighting to retain his spot against a much more senior ruckman than Westy (which woulda fast tracked him even more than last year) & three, ruck superiority for games will come down to Otto. I'd looked forward to watching 2 former All Australian rucks running around the Geelong team for years, and only ever got to watch it for one game (which luckily was a winning GF). Somewhat agree with your statement about the rotations... but like anything, advancement to the senior squad needs to be meritorious... momentum is a big thing in an AFL season & surrendering it to trial out new blood is frought with some danger. If the fringe players in the VFL push for spots like last year, then sure enough, opportunities will arise.
Jason from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 11 Mar 2008 13:48
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It's a toss up between Lonergan/Hawkins. I'd go with Lonergan and give Hawkins another year in the VFL. I don't see 3 talls working in our forward line, especially if Ottens spends time in the forward line. Depending on the opposition, you could go with another small (Varcoe/Djerkurra) or stretch the defence with a mid-sized forward like Gamble. Corey is in our best 18, so one of Kelly/Stokes would have to start on the bench. I'm a big wrap for both and expect big things from them this season. Prismall unlucky - he'd pick up 25 touches a game in most other sides. I love the flexibility in our side, with players being able to push forward, back and into the midfield.
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Dale (Cats supporter), 17 Mar 2008 21:24
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Reasonable call on Gamble.... that'd give the forward line a 2 tall, 2 mid & 2 small basis assuming either Lonners or Hawkins is substituted for Gamble.... Steve J is the main reason I went for 3 talls.... his skills at ground level are the equal of any top line crumbing forward in the AFL, and having a third tall would mean he'll have an aerial advantage over anyone an oppostion can put on him. Wouldn't go for the 4th small up forward unless you were trying to keep a quick rebounding team under wraps... in which case it'd be a toss up between Byrnes,Varcoe or Djerkurra. The point about Otto is good, but I think he's best suited to rucking duties; and it'd be more than easy enough to switch Lonners to the backline while Otto rests up forward too - he adds another element, however slight to the flexibility to the side I think.
Leigh from Melbourne (Cats supporter), 13 Mar 2008 6:08
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My 22 for Rd 1 vs Port B: Harley, Scarlett, Hunt
HB: Mackie, Milburn, Enright
C: Selwood, Bartel, Kelly
HF: Ablett, Mooney, S.Johnson
F: Chapman, Hawkins, Stokes
R: Ottens, Ling, Corey
IC: Rooke, Blake, D.Johnson, Prismall
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